Can anyone provide me a description of this rifle?

Thanks,


Jordan

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Originally posted by Jordan:
Can anyone provide me a description of this rifle?

Thanks,


Jordan

Never heard of an "M12" - would like to know what it is also. The only weapons I personally ever saw the SEALs use for sniper work were the mdified M14 - like what became the XM21/M21 - and the bolt rifles in 300 WinMag.
Their website shows they currently deploy the following sniper weapons:
SNIPER WEAPONS
Rifle M14 sniper kit, sniper rifle

Rifle N91 RH/LH, 7.62mm bolt gun, sniper rifle

Rifle 300 WINMAG bolt gun, sniper rifle

Rifle M88 .50 PIP, bolt gun, magazine fed, sniper rifle

This was copied from http://www.specialoperations.com/Navy/SEALs/Weapons.htm

The SEAL's have always operated with a great deal of equipment that was not 'official' but worked - anyone recall the Stoner LMG? or the little Swedish "K"?
I know a couple or three old Navy SEAL's I will ask but they're like me, so old we can remember when airplanes flew with propellers!

Mark 12 Mod 1 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)



I think this is a Mark 12 Mod 0 shown in the photo above.

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Originally posted by DaMan:
Mark 12 Mod 1 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)



I think this is a Mark 12 Mod 0 shown in the photo above.

Got any idea what it's based on?
Looks like it could a M-16 variant or is it an AR-10.
Jim

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Originally posted by arkypete:

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Originally posted by DaMan:
Mark 12 Mod 1 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)



I think this is a Mark 12 Mod 0 shown in the photo above.

Got any idea what it's based on?
Looks like it could a M-16 variant or is it an AR-10.
Jim

It's an M-16 receiver 5.56x45mm variant. I think they were turned out by Knight Armament Company aka Knight's Manufacturing Company (makers of the SR-25 Mark 11 Mod. 0) ,,,,, but I couldn't swear to that. I know that the trigger units were made by KAC.

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Originally posted by DaMan:

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Originally posted by arkypete:

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Originally posted by DaMan:
Mark 12 Mod 1 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)



I think this is a Mark 12 Mod 0 shown in the photo above.

Got any idea what it's based on?
Looks like it could a M-16 variant or is it an AR-10.
Jim

It's an M-16 receiver 5.56x45mm variant. I think they were turned out by Knight Armament Company aka Knight's Manufacturing Company (makers of the SR-25 Mark 11 Mod. 0) ,,,,, but I couldn't swear to that. I know that the trigger units were made by KAC.

You 'know' eh

Why not just post the link instead of editing the information into "I know the trigger units were made by KAC?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_Mark_12...pecial_Purpose_Rifle

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You 'know' eh

Yes! I know (and knew it before I posted the Wiki Pic)...... because it's the same trigger that's on my SR-25!

I was curious because the weapon is mentioned in the book "Sole Survivor" and I wanted to know what armament those four SEALS had when an army of Taliban descended upon them. Thanks DaMan. Do you know anything else about the rifle?


Jordan

I believe they're kind of a special production semi custom medium range precision suppressed rifle. Designed for making good terrorist's out of baduns.



The article in Wikipedia seems pretty correct.

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Originally posted by Jordan:
I was curious because the weapon is mentioned in the book "Sole Survivor" and I wanted to know what armament those four SEALS had when an army of Taliban descended upon them. Thanks DaMan. Do you know anything else about the rifle?


Jordan

This info is for the Mk 12 Mod 0 only:

Barrel is an 18" Douglas with 1-7" twist (probably a National Match type contour without the M203 cut).

The muzzle break and suppressor a made by OPS, Inc.

The Precision Reflex, Inc. Gen III Free-float forearm and the

ARMS #38 SPR PEQ-2-3 swan sleeve are used.

Iron sights are the PRI flip-up front and the ARMS 40 flip up rear sight.

The scope on the Mk 12 Mod 0 is a TS-30/A2 (made by Leopold). They're similar to the civilian Leopold Mark 4 MR/T.

They use the Tenebraex killFLASH anti-reflexion device on the scope above.

And, as I said before, they use two stage Knights Armament trigger

DaMan:

Nothing said about it, but I wonder if the Mark 12 uses the new and improved gas piston set up? I think this was one developed by HK for retrofit on any M4 but which has mostly been retofitted to spec ops weapons. Not sure how it works, but it is supposed to keep gas and carbon out of the bolt and to greatly extend the number of rounds between cleaning of the M4. I would be very surpised if the SEALS did not have this upgrade, but I've not been able to find anything about it. Any info on this for the Mark 12?

Thanks,


Jordan

If you're really curious, why don't you contact someone at the Naval Surface Warfare Center in Crane, Indiana. They build the rifles.

As it says on their small arms page:

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All Navy small arms are secured and accounted for by NSWC Crane.
All Navy overhauled small arms are certified, sighted, and test fired by NSWC Crane.

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Originally posted by Jordan:
DaMan:

Nothing said about it, but I wonder if the Mark 12 uses the new and improved gas piston set up? I think this was one developed by HK for retrofit on any M4 but which has mostly been retofitted to spec ops weapons. Not sure how it works, but it is supposed to keep gas and carbon out of the bolt and to greatly extend the number of rounds between cleaning of the M4. I would be very surpised if the SEALS did not have this upgrade, but I've not been able to find anything about it. Any info on this for the Mark 12?

Thanks,


Jordan

Jordan the Mk. 12s used the old style standard M-16 direct gas impingement (no piston/op rod).

The HK416seems to be the new guy on the block.

Check this out! I think you'll find it interesting. HK 416 Video

Yeah...HK 416. That's the one. All our troops ought to have that. I read an article on it awhile back in Army Times. Far, far superior to the direct impingement M4. Impressive video.


Jordan