14 January 2010, 04:18
p dog shooterLong gun registry
Any good or recent news on doing away with it?
14 January 2010, 06:29
Canuck32You can see a bills progress here:
Bill progress40th Parliament, 2nd Session - Sitting No. 107 - November 4, 2009
2nd reading of Bill C-391, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act (repeal of long-gun registry)
Yeas: 164 - Nays: 137 - Total Votes: 301 - Paired: 0
I am stealing this from another forum (Canadian Gun Nutz)to clarify how a bill becomes law. So basically C391 is in committee now.
How a bill becomes law in CanadaPrepared by Inba Kehoe,
Government Documents, Stauffer Library, Queen's University
The following guide will explain the process by which a typical government initiated bill becomes law. This guide provides an overview of the Federal Legislative Process. Adapted from "The Federal Legislative Process in Canada".
NOTE: To become law, a bill must first be introduced in either the Senate or the House of Commons. It must then pass through various stages in each House: first, second and third reading. Then it must receive Royal Assent.
A. DEFINITIONS
Public Bills
These are proposals for laws that will affect the public in general. Most public bills are introduced by Government Ministers. Bills sponsored by the Government are numbered from C-1 to C-200 in order of presentation. If they are introduced first in the Senate, they are numbered starting S-1.
Private Bills
These are limited in scope: they concern an individual or group of individuals only. They confer a right on some person or group, or relieve them of a responsibility.
B. POLICY PROPOSAL
Most legislation originates with the Government. Policy proposal requiring legislation is submitted to Cabinet by Minister(s).
C. CABINET
Policy proposal is considered by the appropriate Cabinet committee and recommendations are made to the Cabinet.
If Cabinet approves, the responsible Ministry issues drafting instructions to the Legislation Section of the Department of Justice.
Draft bill is prepared in two official languages and approved by the responsible Minister.
Draft bill is presented to Cabinet for approval.
If approved it is ready to be introduced in Parliament.
D. PARLIAMENT
FIRST READING
First reading in either the Senate or the House of Commons. Bill is printed.
SECOND READING
Second reading in the same House of Parliament. Members debate and vote on the principle of the bill. The House may decide to refer the bill to a legislative, standing or a special committee, or to Committee of the Whole.
CONSIDERATION IN COMMITTEE
Consideration by the appropriate parliamentary committee (clause-by-clause study of the bill). Committee can summon witnesses and experts to provide it with information and help in improving the bill.
REPORT STAGE
Committee reports the bill to the House clearly indicating any amendments proposed. House considers amendments and votes for or against them.
THIRD READING
Debate and vote on bill as amended.
NOTE: Once bill has been read 3 times in the House, it is sent to the Senate for its consideration.
E. ROYAL ASSENT
Bill is presented to the Governor General for assent.
Governor General may assent to Bill in the Queen's name, withhold assent or reserve assent.
When Bill is given Royal Assent it becomes law.
F. IN FORCE
Statute is in force:
upon Royal Assent, or
when it is proclaimed by the Governor General, or
on a day specified in the act
Different sections may come into force at different times
14 January 2010, 07:38
WannabeBwanaI sent an e-mail to Harper (pm@pm.gc.ca) asking him not to prorogue parliament, simply for the reason that I didn't want this bill to die. I understand and accept that it's a time-honoured parliamentary procedure, but I was concerned that this bill had come so close to becoming law and was going to go into the dumpster.
This is part of the response that I got:
"Please rest assured that as Bill C-391 is a Private Member's Bill, it will be unaffected by the launch of a new Parliamentary session."
I'm pleased that I actually got a response that wasn't a canned political "yeah, we know you're out there", but one that was actually in direct response to my question.
Good news, I say!!
14 January 2010, 18:46
CoyoteKiller82quote:
Originally posted by WannabeBwana:
I sent an e-mail to Harper (pm@pm.gc.ca) asking him not to prorogue parliament, simply for the reason that I didn't want this bill to die. I understand and accept that it's a time-honoured parliamentary procedure, but I was concerned that this bill had come so close to becoming law and was going to go into the dumpster.
This is part of the response that I got:
"Please rest assured that as Bill C-391 is a Private Member's Bill, it will be unaffected by the launch of a new Parliamentary session."
I'm pleased that I actually got a response that wasn't a canned political "yeah, we know you're out there", but one that was actually in direct response to my question.
Good news, I say!!
Yup, I was worried at first, but a quick trip to Canadian Gunnutz verified that a Private Member's Bill will not be affected by proroguement, which was quite satisfying. That and when Parliment reconveines, the senate will have another 5 Conservative members, a true majority....for the senate at least.
18 January 2010, 06:40
John Y CannuckKeep bugging those politicians
18 January 2010, 19:24
CoyoteKiller82quote:
Originally posted by John Y Cannuck:
Keep bugging those politicians
Judging from your sig line, and your location, you are in the think of liberal idiots there....poor guy, I feel for ya!