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21 December 2008, 10:31
Cold Zero
Timberwolf Hunting in Canada
Have some questions for the above upcoming hunt.

Would it be legal to bring a A.R. 15 with 18" barrel into Canada for this hunt?

If yes, what are the restrictions on size of magazines? i.e. 5, 10, 20 rds?

Would 75 gr. ammo be effective on Timberwolf?

Suggestions on Clothing would also be helpful. Note: I have hunted Saskatchewan several times, so no stranger to cold. I just would like to bring whatever is optimal.

Stand hunting in February for 1-2 hrs. at a time with intermitant snow mobile rides.

I would also like to hear caliber and bullet weight preferences from the resident wolf hunters.

Thanks.


Cold Zero
21 December 2008, 18:11
MTM
You can use your AR if you are hunting at a desgnated range and have a 5 round clip. That sounded a little sarcastic, they're restricted in Canada. No hunting with ARs. A mini 14 will fly though. Again 5 rounders.
21 December 2008, 18:14
MTM
I might add, I think a 223 is too light fot Wolves.
21 December 2008, 18:29
Cold Zero
MTM, good info' that helps.

Thinking about using either a .308 Chrome Moly with 175 gr., or .30-06 Stainless steel with 180 gr.


Thanks.


Cold Zero
21 December 2008, 18:42
snowman
I would agree that the 223 is on the light side for large timber wolves. On the other side of the coin you do not need a 308 or 30-06. Large calibres tend to rip up the hides too much.a 243, 6mm rem,240 wby or 25-06 with a 90 to 100 gr bullet are just about ideal in my opinion.Larger calibres will stop them but pelt damage becomes a concern. Hope that helps
21 December 2008, 19:11
Cold Zero
I have nothing in between the 75 gr. .223 A.R. that I wanted to use and the two .30 cals. I guess there will be a large exit hole. Wink


Cold Zero
21 December 2008, 20:33
chilcotin hillbilly
A 308 with a 150gr good quality bullet will be the ticket for Wolves. Stay away from softpoint bullets that is what messes op the hides. Wolves are tough animals, good shot placement is a must as a gut shot wolf is not often recovered with out miles of tracking. Good luck with your hunt, You could come out to BC and thin a few out next time.



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21 December 2008, 21:08
Grizzly Adams
quote:
Originally posted by snowman:
I would agree that the 223 is on the light side for large timber wolves. On the other side of the coin you do not need a 308 or 30-06. Large calibres tend to rip up the hides too much.a 243, 6mm rem,240 wby or 25-06 with a 90 to 100 gr bullet are just about ideal in my opinion.Larger calibres will stop them but pelt damage becomes a concern. Hope that helps

I would disagree most strenously here. I've shot three with my 7 mm Rem., using 162 gr. Hornadys and the only pelt that was torn up, was that of a coyote sized pup. They are tough, beyond belief and going undergunned might cost you the pelt. Holes can be patched up. Lack of holes cannot. Big Grin A wolf will weigh at least around a hundred pounds, not varmint caliber material. Grizz


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21 December 2008, 22:55
sprayandpray
30/06 or 308 with good bullets won't do much damage. Nosler Partition, Bear Claws, barnes, etc.

I've shot a few with 12 GA 3" BB also, they're not super tough.
22 December 2008, 01:39
snowman
Cold Zero If you have nothing between the 223 and a 308,take the 308. I've shot them with a 30-06 and a 7mm while moose hunting and made a hell of a mess of the hide. I also shot one with a 338 with almost no damage. Heavier jacket on the 338 bullet compared to the 7mm & 308 bullets likely accounted for less damage.A buddy and myself have taken quite a few wolves that were comming out on a lake at night to feed on suckers left by commercial fishermen.We would be on shore before daylight and get them comming off the ice. We found the 6mms with heavier bullets stopped the wolves quickly and did not do excessive pelt damage. The 240 WBY is just a little more of the same. Griz I will certainly agree with you that wolves are tough animals. Unless you shoot them in a fatal spot you will not likely ever recover them no matter what rifle you use. We have taken several wolves in the 120 to 130 lb range. If you like using your 7mm mag on them ,go for it. I was merely passing on information about my experience.
22 December 2008, 07:10
308Sako
My Bro in Law is hell on Wolves and he and his partners have taken them from 10 yards to 475... so flat shooting and fast handling is a good option in my opinion.






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10 January 2009, 10:26
sputster
Haven't seen any wolves here in eastern Kansas, but will keep eyes peeled.

308Sako, did you all enjoy the snow in Vegas last month? I was changing planes in LV that day and got stuck there overnight. What are the chances...of course no one back at work would believe us when we told them.
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sputster
14 February 2009, 06:16
Cold Zero
quote:
Originally posted by 308Sako:
My Bro in Law is hell on Wolves and he and his partners have taken them from 10 yards to 475... so flat shooting and fast handling is a good option in my opinion.


The above is now a confirmed fact. Eeker


Cold Zero
16 February 2009, 05:02
308Sako
Sputster, The wife and I relocated here to "Say no to Snow." I guess we didn't quite get far enough away from it... LOL










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07 March 2009, 22:28
moki
I use a 22-250 with 50 - 60gr bullets for all the wolves I've shot and just finished working up a 70gr Ballistic Tip load for my 6mm-284.

Looking forward to giving it a try soon...
10 March 2009, 18:28
goosejoe
Cold Zero, I just got back from a wolf hunt in Ontario. I've been using a 30-06 with 150 bullets and feel very comfortable with that load. I personally feel 270 and above are minimum for this hunt, yes with good shot placement you can use a 22 caliber varmint rifle, but chances are you might not have a chance for that. The outfitter told me that possibly the only shot all week you might have is a wolf running away from you. This is exactly what happened with a hunter the day before I started my hunt. The hunter was using a 243, he shot the crap out of this wolf. Did he kill it, yes, but it took like 4 or 5 shots! These wolves can be very big and very tough, don't go undergunned. Yes you can kill them with smaller calibers, the guides will track them down, but you wouldn't shoot a deer and make it suffer so why would you with a wolf. Good luck, you will have a blast! Take tons of hand and toe warmers! Joe
08 April 2009, 15:49
sdeshazo
goosejoe, 308Sako, Cold Zero, I'm wanting too book with Peter for Jan or Feb of 2010 & would be going solo (from Florida) if any of you guys are planning on a return trip I'd be happy to share camp with you.
Shoot me an IM with the dates your thinking about.