Re: Shipping game meat from Canada to US
Don G: I have shot black bear and moose in Alberta, on separate hunts, and I never had any problems getting meat or trophies home. And I was driving (the best way to go). As stated above, for black bears you will need a CITES permit to export/import bears...I needed one just to leave the province of Alberta (not just Canada). I had two bears and a CITES permit for each. At the border crossing you check in with Canadian Customs folks and they look at your CITES permit (and may stamp it..I forget) and then you go over to the U.S. Customs people and then they will get a USFWS person to look at your CITES permit and they will look at your bear(s). It doesn't take long and it is kind of interesting to see what a CITES permit is and what it is for. My outfitter had my CITES permits ready for me. As for the moose, anything you bring back with you will not require any extra paperwork. I brought back meat and had no problems. But if you leave your trophy for taxidermy work (which I did), there will be a bunch of paperwork for export/import purposes. It was as hard and expensive to get a shoulder mounted moose from Edmonton, Alberta to Tulsa, Ok as it was to get 7 trophies from Johannesburg to Anchorage.
Both of these hunts were absolutley wonderful.
Don--I think I mis-understood your question. I am pretty certain that there are regulations at the provincial level (BC or Alberta for example) and then there are national regulations (Canadian government level). I am certain if you want to import a black bear in to the United States from Canada (from BC or elsewhere), you will need a CITES permit. Ask your outfitter about this.
08 August 2004, 14:19
Don_GThanks for the link, RWJ. I was convinced that I needed a CITES permit to leave BC until I read your post.
The link didn't work, though. I found it at
http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/car/faq/transwild.htmlI think I still need to "register" the bear in BC (via a "Compulsory Inspection Data Sheet") if I'm going through the other provinces on the way back, but may not even need that if I return via Montana.
Thanks and Good Hunting,
Don
Sounds to me like the United States may not require a CITES permit to import a black bear. I know in 1997 I was not allowed to leave Alberta or Canada with my bears without a CITES permit. They do update the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species every so often so it is possible I am giving you dated information. Or it could be that Canada requires the CITIES permit, and not the U.S. I did not know I needed a CITIES permit until I shot my first bear and the outfitter filled out this paperwork and gave it to me and told me not to loose it. But things could have changed since 1997. If it is an issue, it sounds like it may be an export issue and not an import issue. If that is the case, your guide will have all the paperwork you need.
10 August 2004, 18:33
470 MbogoHi Don,
Looking forward to meeting you in Sept. Don't worry about any of the Moose meat. I'm getting kind of skinny and both my buddies Chris K and Chris S have one hell of an appetite. You should look into taking bones across the border. Do you like Whiskey

Take the best of care,
Dave
10 August 2004, 22:50
Don_GI had heard there would be some scavengers in camp, now I know what he meant!
Too bad the deer aren't over-running the place like here, I'd shoot a doe for camp meat. (Here in the Cincinnati Urban Area the limit is 5 doe/ one buck a year - even the greenies are getting tired of prying them off their bumper!)
Looking forward to meeting you - but you can leave the cannons at home as far as I'm concerned. My 416 Rem is all I can handle - guess I'm just a wuss!
I just got word last night that my Tacoma is in at the dealer. Now I can carry the freezer in the truck. Too bad the alternator won't handle the load of a 600 Watt inverter for the freezer!
I've heard from every Province on my route except Saskatchewan - looks like no problems on the trophies or meat (as long as it is boned - no skulls). The only suggestion is that I stop in Ft St John and get the game Inspected as proof that all game was taken in BC. This is not mandatory, but it seems like a reasonable precaution.
I like Scotch whiskey, not that watery crap you guys make from grass seed.

(Just kidding - Chris introduced to the good stuff - another bad habit to add to my list...)
See you in three weeks!
18 August 2004, 03:26
Don_GBill,
I don't know about your freezer, but mine only draws about 220 Volt-Amps (think of Volt-Amps as "worst case Watts") steady state, yet the startup transient requires over 1500 Volt-Amps.
I'm going to test a 1000 Watt inverter with a 1500 Watt peak rating to see if it will start-up the compressor OK. I'll let you know how it goes.
(Sometimes being an engineer is a curse.)
18 August 2004, 06:07
derfDon, I had a "Detroit Locker" "No Spin" put into my old Chev 3/4 ton 4X4 and what a difference it made!! I would heartily recommend it. derf
18 August 2004, 08:51
Don_Gderf,
I had one of the Eaton (I think) lockers in a 3/4 Chevy truck. It always drove the slowest rear wheel, so on pavement you could feel it pushing you around every time it switched sides. It really made a difference in that Gulf Coast gumbo mud, though.
I don't even know what's available for the Tacoma. I'd like to get one of the factory electric lockers, but I don't know if it fits the pumpkin in my truck.