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08 June 2023, 06:32
J_ZolaFires
Whats going on up north with the fires? NJ is cover in smoke and I almost had to send 100 people home due to the building filling up with smoke.
08 June 2023, 06:37
Grizzly Adams1Give them a bucket and a shovel and send them to help fight our fires.
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08 June 2023, 07:56
SkylineJ_Zola....very dry up here and there are fires all over. In the east Quebec has a pile of fires as is the case in the Maritimes. Some across the prairies with Alberta getting hit hard and there has also been some bad ones in BC. Even Vancouver Island has some significant fires.
We need RAIN!
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09 June 2023, 23:39
Otto$1946We are getting a bit of rain now in the Kootennays and hope for more to come.
In my opinion, with decades of bush experience and 21 years in forestry, most with fire detection and suPpression, in BC and AB, the real cause of this is poor governmental policy nationwide.
We no longer have full-time, staffed fire lookouts or loggers fighting fires in many areas. We NEED L/Os, people like me to staff them and more training-crews from school age to retirement.
But, we have punkass bitchs in power who cut forest service budgets while spending much tax dollars on immigrant celebrations and "foreign aid", so, what do you expect.....?????
10 June 2023, 00:19
Skyline^^^^ Completely agree.
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10 June 2023, 02:01
Brian CanadaOtto$1946, I agree. Brian
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10 June 2023, 02:19
jdollarIt’s the same in the US. Forest Service files a notice of a control burn, Sierra Club files a law suit and stops it, fuel load continues to grow. California is the worst about this and then people bitch when homes adjoining woodlands go up in smoke.
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10 June 2023, 19:14
Grizzly Adams1quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
It’s the same in the US. Forest Service files a notice of a control burn, Sierra Club files a law suit and stops it, fuel load continues to grow. California is the worst about this and then people bitch when homes adjoining woodlands go up in smoke.
Son was there about a month ago. Multimillion dollar mansions that can't get fire insurance, the owners are paranoid about campers and human caused fires in the neighboring woods.
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11 June 2023, 18:32
p dog shooterquote:
We no longer have full-time, staffed fire lookouts or loggers fighting fires in many areas. We NEED L/Os, people like me to staff them and more training-crews from school age to retirement.
We had a DNR explorer program when I was in HS. They taught us wild fire fighting along with other interesting things.
17 June 2023, 01:43
SpooksarWhen I was in high school in BC my summer job was in a sawmill, when a fire happened everyone in the mill went out, and if they needed more people they cleared out the local bar then the local prison. Now a days even people with logging experience that own equipment aren’t used because they don’t have a certificate, so fire run out of control for days till they get enough people to fight them.
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17 June 2023, 03:20
Skylinequote:
Originally posted by Spooksar:
When I was in high school in BC my summer job was in a sawmill, when a fire happened everyone in the mill went out, and if they needed more people they cleared out the local bar then the local prison. Now a days even people with logging experience that own equipment aren’t used because they don’t have a certificate, so fire run out of control for days till they get enough people to fight them.
Absolutely spot on. I can remember when I was a kid and they would hit the local beer parlour and tell all the able bodied males in there that they were going to fight a forest fire, whether they like it or not.
Certificates...yes they need a certificate, in some cases multiple certificates. Besides specific fire related courses, another to operate an ATV, another to operate a chainsaw, your MSDS course, and the list goes on.
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17 June 2023, 06:05
medvedquote:
Originally posted by Skyline:
quote:
Originally posted by Spooksar:
When I was in high school in BC my summer job was in a sawmill, when a fire happened everyone in the mill went out, and if they needed more people they cleared out the local bar then the local prison. Now a days even people with logging experience that own equipment aren’t used because they don’t have a certificate, so fire run out of control for days till they get enough people to fight them.
Absolutely spot on. I can remember when I was a kid and they would hit the local beer parlour and tell all the able bodied males in there that they were going to fight a forest fire, whether they like it or not.
Certificates...yes they need a certificate, in some cases multiple certificates. Besides specific fire related courses, another to operate an ATV, another to operate a chainsaw, your MSDS course, and the list goes on.
that is why they cant use people as you do not have a permit to live ... everything is so wrong when all those people from big cities are starting to try to rules on everything.
17 June 2023, 23:38
Grizzly Adams1Someone I know to be reliable, was telling me, a local reserve lost one home to the wildfire and 8 more to arson.
Grizz
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quote:
Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
It’s the same in the US. Forest Service files a notice of a control burn, Sierra Club files a law suit and stops it, fuel load continues to grow. California is the worst about this and then people bitch when homes adjoining woodlands go up in smoke.
Son was there about a month ago. Multimillion dollar mansions that can't get fire insurance, the owners are paranoid about campers and human caused fires in the neighboring woods.
Grizz
I was just talking to a friend of mine on Monday. He has a cabin in the California Sierras. When he went to insure it, he was told that his and another were the last two that that company would insure in California.
22 June 2023, 15:46
p dog shooterI talked to my friend in western ONT he said they had received some rain.
That it put out several small fires.
A good thing as I am going to his remote cabin for a week of fishing.
25 June 2023, 08:50
Grizzly Adams1Nordegg Alberta area today.
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01 July 2023, 16:18
p dog shooterJust got back from a week of fishing north of Pickle Lake ONT.
Saw smoke every day saw no fires,
Fishing was great.
01 July 2023, 21:36
SkylineGlad you had a good fishing trip pds.
Out here in NW BC we got some rain a week ago and a bit more last night. Still drier than hell in the bush and we have a fire ban in place, but so far no major fires in the area. Fire crews have done a good job of putting the few that have started out quickly.
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08 July 2023, 19:34
450 FullerThe USFS has failed badly in Northern Arizona. The Town of Alpine almost was lost due to inept
restrictions after a fire was allowed to progress too far. Local with Cat-8 was ticketed for protecting his property and others.
Having been on a tanker crew in NM and AZ, our
problem is bureaucratic incompetence.
Possibly we could put border-crossers along the Rio Grande on fire crews. After we remove
the current administration.
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17 July 2023, 19:49
SkylineShort note as my wife and I are finally accessing wi-fi. The fire situation in BC is very serious. A state of emergency has been declared in NW BC Skeena region due to many wild fires out of control. Lots of evacuation alerts and evacuation orders. Lightening has been a huge issue and we again had thunder and lightening yesterday evening.
We have been on mandatory evacuation now for a week, as have many other people in the area. We have been camping at a lake that is currently not threatened by fire, about an hours drive in the backcountry from where we live, with other neighbours who were also ordered to evacuate. The feds are finally sending in some of the military to assist with fire fighting. There are simply not enough men and equipment to handle all of the fires in the Cariboo and Skeena regions.
Anyone with hunts booked in these regions should pay close attention to how this progresses. Many forest service roads have been closed. Undoubtedly some outfitters are going to be affected, so be sure to check with the outfitter you are booked with to be sure of any possible problems going fowards.
Cheers!
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18 July 2023, 00:56
30.06kingquote:
Originally posted by Skyline:
Short note as my wife and I are finally accessing wi-fi. The fire situation in BC is very serious. A state of emergency has been declared in NW BC Skeena region due to many wild fires out of control. Lots of evacuation alerts and evacuation orders. Lightening has been a huge issue and we again had thunder and lightening yesterday evening.
We have been on mandatory evacuation now for a week, as have many other people in the area. We have been camping at a lake that is currently not threatened by fire, about an hours drive in the backcountry from where we live, with other neighbours who were also ordered to evacuate. The feds are finally sending in some of the military to assist with fire fighting. There are simply not enough men and equipment to handle all of the fires in the Cariboo and Skeena regions.
Anyone with hunts booked in these regions should pay close attention to how this progresses. Many forest service roads have been closed. Undoubtedly some outfitters are going to be affected, so be sure to check with the outfitter you are booked with to be sure of any possible problems going fowards.
Cheers!
It breaks mg heart to think of that beautiful part of BC being devastated. Sorry to hear you are so affected but hope yourselves and property remain safe. All the best.
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18 July 2023, 04:35
Otto$1946quote:
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The region will NOT be "devastated" and the habitat for much of the native wildlife may well be improved by burning.
Much of northern BC has been and is deliberately burned by then local outfitters in cooperation with the BCFS and Wildlife Branch. This enhances Moose and Elk habitat and we all benefit thereby.
18 July 2023, 20:09
Skyline30.06king....thanks. Things are looking good. They brought in a cat and plowed some fire breaks behind where we live, then did a bit of back burning and it is giving us some optimism that we will be okay. Letting us in to our property for two hours per day at this point, which certainly helps. Have to run our generator for power however as there has been quite a few poles and lines in the area damaged.
Otto$1946.....what you say is true. The whole area will not be devistated. That said, between the big fires that burned a lot of country in 2017 and 2018, along with the fires this year, a lot of country has been torched.
These areas will indeed be good in later years for the game, but some of the fires were so hot that all that was left was black sticks and rock...the whole surface area completely destroyed. They are doing studies now in those areas with seedlings of various species to see which will be able to grow better in these hot zones.
Although there have been many "controlled burns" in BC over the years by outfitters working with BCFS, that is not the case with all the fires this year. It has been hot and dry...really dry...and the latest flurry of fires was from many lightening strikes.
In any event, I put this info on here so that some AR members that have booked up in this part of the province can do their due diligence. Also know there has been some big fires in NE BC, one of which is reportedly the largest ever to occur in BC regarding the number of acres burned.
Cheers!
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22 July 2023, 21:38
Grizzly Adams1Bit of a different perspective here.
https://www.rmoutlook.com/lake...fire-hotspot-7246669 Grizz
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02 August 2023, 23:00
Brian CanadaSkyline, How goes the battle with your fire in/around Burns Lake? Brian
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03 August 2023, 08:02
SkylineHi Brian.....well we dodged a bullet and we are back home now. Fire crews did a hell of a job, as without them and their efforts, a number of us would have lost everything.
As it was the fire came within about 100 yards of our home, which is where they used a cat to create a fire break. It still jumped the break in several places, but they managed to keep it at bay. Our power was restored a few days ago. No phone yet and it looks like next week before we may have a landline again. No cell service here.
The fires are still burning, but have slowed down due to cooler temperatures and less wind. That said, it looks like hot, dry weather is returning as of tomorrow. Still a lot of hot weather ahead as August is usually the hottest month, as you know. We are keeping some stuff packed just in case things go south again.
They ended up bringing in the military to assist with the fires, and we have fire crews here from Mexico and Costa Rica...and a lot of US Forest Service trucks and men are here as well. The local wildfire crews just could not handle all of the fires and the help from these excellent crews is appreciated by all!! Great bunch of people.
How is it around Kamloops? As I understand it there are a number of fires causing problems in your area and another bad one down near Gun Creek.
Sadly, there was another fire fighter killed up in northeastern BC, which makes four so far this season I believe. The loss of these people is very distressing and I know it has had a big impact on many.
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03 August 2023, 08:51
medvedquote:
Originally posted by Skyline:
Hi Brian.....well we dodged a bullet and we are back home now. Fire crews did a hell of a job, as without them and their efforts, a number of us would have lost everything.
As it was the fire came within about 100 yards of our home, which is where they used a cat to create a fire break. It still jumped the break in several places, but they managed to keep it at bay. Our power was restored a few days ago. No phone yet and it looks like next week before we may have a landline again. No cell service here.
The fires are still burning, but have slowed down due to cooler temperatures and less wind. That said, it looks like hot, dry weather is returning as of tomorrow. Still a lot of hot weather ahead as August is usually the hottest month, as you know. We are keeping some stuff packed just in case things go south again.
They ended up bringing in the military to assist with the fires, and we have fire crews here from Mexico and Costa Rica...and a lot of US Forest Service trucks and men are here as well. The local wildfire crews just could not handle all of the fires and the help from these excellent crews is appreciated by all!! Great bunch of people.
How is it around Kamloops? As I understand it there are a number of fires causing problems in your area and another bad one down near Gun Creek.
Sadly, there was another fire fighter killed up in northeastern BC, which makes four so far this season I believe. The loss of these people is very distressing and I know it has had a big impact on many.
prayers send to you and your wife. Kelly we wish you the best and not a too warm and dry august. it is crazy everywhere including here.
03 August 2023, 19:35
Skylinequote:
Originally posted by medved:
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Originally posted by Skyline:
Hi Brian.....well we dodged a bullet and we are back home now. Fire crews did a hell of a job, as without them and their efforts, a number of us would have lost everything.
As it was the fire came within about 100 yards of our home, which is where they used a cat to create a fire break. It still jumped the break in several places, but they managed to keep it at bay. Our power was restored a few days ago. No phone yet and it looks like next week before we may have a landline again. No cell service here.
The fires are still burning, but have slowed down due to cooler temperatures and less wind. That said, it looks like hot, dry weather is returning as of tomorrow. Still a lot of hot weather ahead as August is usually the hottest month, as you know. We are keeping some stuff packed just in case things go south again.
They ended up bringing in the military to assist with the fires, and we have fire crews here from Mexico and Costa Rica...and a lot of US Forest Service trucks and men are here as well. The local wildfire crews just could not handle all of the fires and the help from these excellent crews is appreciated by all!! Great bunch of people.
How is it around Kamloops? As I understand it there are a number of fires causing problems in your area and another bad one down near Gun Creek.
Sadly, there was another fire fighter killed up in northeastern BC, which makes four so far this season I believe. The loss of these people is very distressing and I know it has had a big impact on many.
prayers send to you and your wife. Kelly we wish you the best and not a too warm and dry august. it is crazy everywhere including here.
Thanks Phil.....so far it has been a crazy summer indeed.
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03 August 2023, 21:13
Brian CanadaThat sounds like it was a serious situation that was well handled by all involved. Very worrisome time for you folks. Thanks for the update.
Kamloops area is not too bad. Some smoke in the air every day. Surrounding area has fires and lightening strikes. But all fires are under control.
The summer fire season in BC is not over is it. The government seems to have it's eye on the ball this year.
I didn't realize that there were 4 fire fire fighters killed this year. That is very bad.
Thanks again for the update. Brian
PS. I hesitate to mention my good fortune when others in BC are fighting for their property and lives. But, I am excited to say that some of our family are off to RSA in a 10 days to hunt. I will hunt several buffalo with a borrowed double 470NE and Peregrine Bush master bullets. My son will use his bow for PG and grandson will use a suppressed 30-06. My wife Sandy is coming too. She enjoys the bush/country and friends without hunting.
Best wishes for all of you. Brian
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04 August 2023, 04:14
SkylineHave fun Brian....should be a great trip with three generations participating and the boss along as well. Will look forward to hearing about it after you get back.
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04 August 2023, 08:13
Brian CanadaSkyline, Thanks. Yes, three generations hunting in the bush at the same time in the same farm, African Dawn Hunting Safaris. Brian
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05 August 2023, 16:15
craneGood luck Brian!
06 August 2023, 01:48
Brian CanadaCrane, Thanks ! Brian
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