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BC Outfitter Sheep Allocations?

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03 November 2013, 18:12
Jack D Bold
BC Outfitter Sheep Allocations?
Does anyone know how to check how many sheep tags a BC outfitter is allocated? And how many of them are filled annually?

DOing some homework on a Stone hunt. Thanks for your help!


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04 November 2013, 20:58
ryry4
Stone allocations are based upon what the biologist says the are can handle. Some of the outfits just had their tags knocked back a year or so ago, and some didn't. It really depends on the area they are located in and how big it is. I took a stone in northern B.C. this past August. PM if you like and I could give you some insight on my hunt.
05 November 2013, 06:00
Jim Kelly
ryry4 is right most outfitters had the tags reallocated last year. I've hunted stones twice in the last three years and we saw many legal rams. I just returned from a late season hunt with Big Nine and we saw some busters but held out for a giant....it never came. In hindsight I think we should have shot one of the rams we passed on. Of all NA sheep stones are my favorite!
14 November 2013, 01:16
ZekeShikar
I think Jack is asking, in a polite way, how many hunters an outfitter runs through camp during the hunting season to "fill" 100% of his quota on Stone sheep.
There are some who will claim 100% hunter success when, in fact, it is 100% quota filled.
I think it would be interesting to see the actual numbers of hunters v success.
Some of the "big boys" clain the actual success rate runs about 40-50%.
Stone sheep hunting is far from a sure thing!
Zeke
14 November 2013, 01:41
sheephunterab
quote:
Originally posted by ZekeShikar:
ISome of the "big boys" clain the actual success rate runs about 40-50%.
Stone sheep hunting is far from a sure thing!
Zeke


I'd say province-wide, that is a pretty accurate statement.


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14 November 2013, 05:03
Canuck
Gov't will not typically share the quota for each guide outfitter, or the number of animals harvested. You would have to file a FOI request to get that, and you might wait a while. The information that is shared with association(s) representing resident hunters is usually rolled up for an entire region.

You can sometimes find out the quota (or recent quotas anyway) by google searching. As an example, the current quota if often disclosed when a territory is for sale. Also, you can sometimes find it in the narrative of Environmental Appeal Board decisions (if the quota was being appealed, or if the information is relevant to a case).

As mentioned above, you can't calculate success rates from quota even if you know the number of sheep killed, as the outfitters can book as many clients as necessary to fill the quota.

I would hesitate to guess, but the guess above is probably not far off. Stone sheep hunting is no slam dunk. And resident success is WAY lower.