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18 December 2013, 02:21
2th doclicense question
My son in law lost his hunting tag for a game code violation in Pa., USA (he is a dumb ass) But I have deposits on a trip to Ontario for him, my son and myself next fall, may he still purchase a hunting tag in Canada?
18 December 2013, 02:34
sheephunterabLikely unless the judge put special conditions on his suspension that apply outside of PA. Likely best to contact the DNR in Ontario to confirm.
Non-Residents
Non-residents of Ontario must present one of the following five options to obtain a non-resident license to hunt in Ontario.
•An Ontario non-resident’s hunting license issued to you after January 1, 1968; or
•A hunting license issued to you by a competent authority in any jurisdiction as a resident of that jurisdiction after January 1, 1968; or
•An Ontario Hunting License Examination Certificate issued to you after January 1, 1968; or
•An Ontario Hunting License Verification Certificate showing that you were issued an Ontario license to hunt, or passed the Hunting License Examination; or
•A certificate, issued to you after January 1, 1968, by a competent authority in any jurisdiction, giving you permission to purchase a resident’s hunting license in that jurisdiction.
18 December 2013, 02:41
2th docHere in the States we have what is known as "Wildlife Violators Act" or something like that. Most states are enrolled in it an basically what it means is if you are convicted of a game code violation and your hunting rights are revoked in your home state they are revoked in the other states that are enrolled too. I was wondering if parts of Canada are enrolled into that as well.
18 December 2013, 04:02
hvrhunterOn similar note be aware that a DWI will prevent him from entering also.
18 December 2013, 05:22
sheephunterabquote:
Originally posted by hvrhunter:
On similar note be aware that a DWI will prevent him from entering also.
You can apply in advance for a visitor visa if you have a conviction and the occasional time a CBSA agent will supply you with a visitor visa at the point of entry but it's best to apply in advance...the cost is $200. There is a reciprocal agreement between the U.S. and Canada on this so the Canadian agent will have access to American records so it's not something you can't hide.
18 December 2013, 06:06
medvedquote:
Originally posted by 2th doc:
Here in the States we have what is known as "Wildlife Violators Act" or something like that. Most states are enrolled in it an basically what it means is if you are convicted of a game code violation and your hunting rights are revoked in your home state they are revoked in the other states that are enrolled too. I was wondering if parts of Canada are enrolled into that as well.
there is some provinces and territory doing that. at least Yukon.
18 December 2013, 08:25
oddsixCheck with DNR as some provinces it is illegal to purchase/hunt if you are suspended from hunting elsewhere. Better safe than sorry again.
19 December 2013, 06:05
erictRegardless of another US state, territory or another country, best to call ahead and ask. I do not think any Canadian provinces have yet signed on, but
here in the US there is an agreement between most states as outlined below. It's not a perfect system but as more and more agencies get all licenses computerized it will prevent these violators from buying licenses in other states. Vermont has a pretty good writeup explaining the compact:
As of January 1, 2013 Vermont became the 39th member of the
Interstate Wildlife Violators Compact (IWVC). The IWVC assures that in participating states, nonresident violators will receive the same treatment as resident violators. IWVC member states reciprocate in the suspension or revocation of licenses and permits resulting from violation of hunting, fishing or trapping laws. This cooperative interstate effort will enhance the department’s ability to protect and manage our wildlife resources.
If an individual’s license or permit privileges are revoked in one compact member state, they are subject to suspension or revocation in all other member states. For example, if a Vermont resident has their hunting privileges suspended in Minnesota, their privileges may also be suspended in Vermont and in all other compact states. This helps prevent habitual violators form relocating their illegal activities to other member’s states.
The IWVC also has established procedures that results in a nonresident violator who fails to comply with the terms of a citation issued in a participating state to face the possibility of the suspension of their wildlife license privileges in their home state until the terms of the citation are met. The goal of the IWVC is to facilitate improved enforcement of hunting, fishing and trapping laws through the cooperation of law enforcement units in member states.
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"Listen more than you speak, and you will hear more stupid things than you say."
19 December 2013, 17:44
2th docYes I knew about this as I mentioned in an earlier post, it looks as if Canada as a whole has not bought into the USA's law at this point.
Canada may or may not have it's own policy
20 December 2013, 08:07
medved2th doc,
i dont think there is an actual connection between USA and Canada but for sure the connections are working between differents provinces and territories.
i ll ask and report what i ll get.
Phil
20 December 2013, 17:17
2th docthank you
21 December 2013, 23:03
medved2th doc,
the suggestion i received is to tell in advance what happened to your son in law to the Ontario DNR and come there with the paper of the judgement in the case there is some question raised ...
this is only what i can say and hope it will help for your soon to be good trip.
all the best.
Phil
22 December 2013, 03:31
2th docMedved: Thank you for your aide.
Since the original posting on this I had contact with the powers to be in Ontario and was told they do not do a background check on non residents/aliens whom wish to purchase a hunting card. All they do require is an old license from their home state.
30 December 2013, 09:00
dande_jackI believe Alberta has the rule as in the US but how to enforce it? I live here and I'd say it is impossible to enforce.
01 January 2014, 08:22
N E 450 No2When I hunted in Canada, I had to show a valid USA state hunting license, and they took it and attached it to the forms they kept, then issued me my hunting license and bear tag.
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