What critters inhabit southern B.C.??

19 November 2003, 11:45

Jesse Jaymes

Not trying to be ignorant. I grew up 26 mile from Canada, just on the east coast. I am moving to NW Washington within the month. Never been even close to that area before. Can anyone briefly explain if I am allowed to hunt B.C. as a US citizen without a guide, and if such an idea is crazy? Piont being, I am a real Mule deer fanatic, and would like to have a second tag/opportunity during a season. Also I don't think Moose and Grizzly are that far down, are they????

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19 November 2003, 11:56

Cariboo

Sorry but as a non-resident you would require a guide for all big game hunting. (except for rare cases where you have a very close relative, who hunts, living in BC)
This holds true for both non-resident Canadians (again subject to limited exceptions) and non-resident aliens.
Your other option is to move right into BC [Big Grin]

As to the game species yes there are moose, grizz and whitetail,mule and blacktail deer in the southern part of BC. Goats and sheep and cougars and more damn black bears than you can shake a stick at.

19 November 2003, 14:15

Mauser98

If I read the Wildlife Act right, it is legal for a non-resident or a non-resident alien to hunt in BC if he is accompanied by a BC resident and if no remuneration is requested by, offered to or accepted by the resident. Of course, the resident has to get a permit from the Gov't before the hunt and I don't have any idea how difficult they are to get.

19 November 2003, 14:25

Gatehouse

quote:
Originally posted by Mauser98:
If I read the Wildlife Act right, it is legal for a non-resident or a non-resident alien to hunt in BC if he is accompanied by a BC resident and if no remuneration is requested by, offered to or accepted by the resident. Of course, the resident has to get a permit from the Gov't before the hunt and I don't have any idea how difficult they are to get.

Unless he is Canadian, he has to be a direct relative, as far as I understand.

I think the only big game species not available in BC is antelope [Smile]

19 November 2003, 23:56

arkypete

Gatehouse
Considering the number of ding-a-ling laws on both sides of the border, in the name of diversity would it be possible to become blood brothers, ala Hollywood?, or Gypsy adaption? In both cases it's like the 'meaningful overnight relationship.'
The government would not want to offend or demean these traditions.
Jim

20 November 2003, 05:22

derf

Well we do have that new law that allows 2 guys to be married. I suppose that would make one guy "related" to another. [Eek!]

derf

20 November 2003, 05:29

Cariboo

So derf are you proposing to arkypete? [Wink]

LoL

20 November 2003, 10:51

Gatehouse

Arky Pete, you'll have to move in with Derf for 6 months, to get residency status, as well [Smile]

20 November 2003, 14:02

Mickey1

Try 2 AM in Williams Lake. You'll see all sorts of strange critters. [Big Grin]

Try some of my friend Emil's Liebershlitz and you will definitely see some strange things. [Eek!]

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20 November 2003, 14:21

Cariboo

quote:
Originally posted by Mickey1:
Try 2 AM in Williams Lake. You'll see all sorts of strange critters.

You were brave enough to walk around in the "Puddle" at 2:00 am? [Eek!]

Damn if I ever get the chance to meet you I will shake your hand!! [Cool]

PS
Warning to all tourists.
Do not walk around Williams Lake during the wee hours of the morning, especially if you have partaken of a few wobbly-pops. It is not good for your health.

20 November 2003, 15:19

Mickey1

It all depends on how many 'friends' you are with. Barroom Buddies, them's the best kind. [Roll Eyes]

You do have to watch out for copulating natives on the lawn. [Big Grin]

In my younger days I used to love the Stampede. Now I can't handle the mornings anymore. [Roll Eyes]

For a real wild affair try the Rodeos at Anahim Lake or Alexis Creek.

'Sheet, I can ride that old plug, that don't look so hard. Saddle? Saddles are for pussies. [Eek!]

One night I was sleeping in my pickup canopy in the parking lot of the Overlander when two Indians started to climb in. They apologized and said they were just looking for a place to sleep out of the cold. Good thing I was there or I'm sure we would have been cleaned out. [Mad]

20 November 2003, 15:41

Cariboo

You sound like you spent a good amount of time out here in the BC interior Mickey! I know all about the good old rodeos in the Chilcotin. There was a time I loved to take the greenest of horses out and try and win money roping off of them. Those days are long gone I am afraid and these days all my horses have a good number of years on them, just like me I guess! LoL These days I love horses with few surprizes as it seems the older I get the harder the ground becomes!

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20 November 2003, 16:01

Mickey1

I was born in Williams Lake. My Mom's family had a Ranch out by Tatla Lake.

I'm buying a few acres on the Horsefly. For my retirement 'summers' Too much snow in the winters. I think Mexico, on the Gulf of California. Ducks and Doves. [Big Grin]

21 November 2003, 10:29

Gatehouse

I've been in Williams Lake dozens of times, and never had a problem.

I've even been out at night, too. Nobody bothered me at all...

I tend not to leave my stuff in the truck if I'm staying at a motel, though. [Smile]

21 November 2003, 13:15

Cariboo

quote:
Originally posted by Gatehouse:
I've even been out at night, too. Nobody bothered me at all...

Yes but those trouble-makers had never seen a white guy as large as you before! LoL

Seriously though we did have another murder outside of one of the bars a couple of weeks ago. It is kind of funny though as it was a visiting "lower-mainlander" who has been charged with sticking a kinfe into the fellow who died.

22 November 2003, 03:50

Boghossian

Can you guys hunt all those species without drawing a tag ala Montana? BTW, is it true that there are fallow deer on an island in British Columbia?

22 November 2003, 04:26

moki

In most cases you just go to the outdoor store and purchase a tag for the species that you want to hunt. Deer, Moose, elk, Black bear, Mountain goat, Mountain sheep, Mountain lion, have a general open hunting season from appr. August 15 to Dec. 15 as well as spring seasons for Black bear. Grizzly bear hunting is by limited entry hunting only here in British Columbia. We are having more areas that are only open to limited entry hunting which is like a lottery draw for special areas but also antler size restictions areas(spike/fork horn moose or four points and greater deer). In most cases though there is somewhere in the province that is open to a general hunting season. Moose and elk hunting is closed for the season now but I'm going Mule/Blacktail deer hunting tommorrow(no anter size restriction). Yes there is an island at the south end of Vancouver Island called Sidney Island that has Fallow deer on it. I believe it is limited entry hunting only.

22 November 2003, 16:14

Gatehouse

Yup, grizzly and bison are the only things that you need to actually draw a tag for. Everything else is open somewhere, sometime.

Most tags cost between 10 and 20 pounds. [Smile]

22 November 2003, 17:25

Mickey1

Don't you guys get confused with all of that different coloured money?
Do you have to exchange it for,like, American money before McDonalds will take it?
[Confused]

22 November 2003, 18:24

Gatehouse

quote:
Originally posted by Mickey1:
Don't you guys get confused with all of that different coloured money?
Do you have to exchange it for,like, American money before McDonalds will take it?

Ha!

I can't tell you how many times I've heard American tourists comment that Canadian money looks 'like Monopoly money, because it is different coloured.'

They are always surprised when I tell them that virtually every modern country has coloured money, and American money is behind the times [Smile]

They also get very confused with Canadian coins. I REALLY don't understand that, because American and Canadian coins are virtually identical in size and shape for corresponding values.

The only real difference is the Loonie and Twoonie. And the USA has a dollar coin, too...

It's especially funny because the English coins are totally different from ours, yet the Brits seem to pick up the money in no time at all... [Smile]

24 November 2003, 17:38

derf

There are also Fallow deer in the lower mainland but man are they ever shy! We also have hogs in the Harrison area but the Wildlife people don't want to admit to it.
Just another thought,if Arkypete had to live with me for 6 days even,I'd probably drive him nuts! [Big Grin]

derf

25 November 2003, 02:57

Boghossian

WOW, I'm very impressed, although I'm sure there is a lot of driving involved to get most/all species.
BTW, excuse the ignorance but are there the same densities of hunters in BC and Alberta as there are in the USA? I just don't seem to remember hearing of Canadian hunters having much clout compared to the orange army in the US.

25 November 2003, 04:58

Cariboo

quote:
Originally posted by Boghossian:

BTW, excuse the ignorance but are there the same densities of hunters in BC and Alberta as there are in the USA?

Here in BC ay least it is not even close. If a person gets away from the major cities (and we don't have too many of those either) you can do fairly well. In BC over 80% of the land is "crown" or in other words public lands, which can be used for hunting by residents.