27 May 2004, 15:29
<Guest>Re: How does the guiding system work in Canada
The idea of no borders and no government is not absurd. Rather, it is the natural way of things. Everything else is artificial, which means that somebody is going to win and somebody is going to lose based on the whims and fancies of governmental types.
We do not need controls. What we need is less population on this earth. It wasn't designed to hold 6 billion people, and I pity the great grandchildren of those living today. When the fuel runs out, (and it will run out) and when the earth becomes one big city, it will be a miserable miserable life.
27 May 2004, 16:29
David_ParenteauYeah,Blue,the idea of no borders and no government really IS absurb.
Dave
27 May 2004, 17:23
<Guest>David
who are you, the absurb meter. If your going to make a statement, provide a valid argument to go with it.
Blue
27 May 2004, 18:54
kutenaymtnboyBlue, it doesn't matter what you think about the current situation here in Canada concerning the guide-outfitter industry as you have no input or influence into it. When you philosophise about a world without borders and controls of various kinds, you simply reveal a lack of understanding of contemporary reality with respect to both wildlife management and Canadian national feelings about our resources.
Those of us who have striven, on this thread, to explain the situation to you, are not in the least absurd as WE OWN THE FUCKING SHEEP and do NOT have any obligation to allow any foreign hunters to have any access to them, period. By your statements, you seem to think that you, as an American, have some sort of right to hunt our Sheep under the rules, or lack thereof, that you deem acceptable.This attitude is far too prevalent among foreign hunters and it is starting to impact upon non-resident quotas as does the increased resident hunting pressure.
To presume to refer to a B.C. hunter as "absurd" is hardly the way to engender a feeling of camaraderie and acceptance by we B.C. boys; it just makes most of us think that it is now time to curtail or even end ALL non-resident hunting in this province. I might add that if there were no borders, laws and other "artificial" human constructs, then there would be no lawyers; this might make your financial situation a bit difficult, eh? I somehow don't see you as a "Bullbucker" or "Rigging Slinger".
27 May 2004, 18:57
Oscar MakonkaBlue, if you like no borders and free movement of people wherever they want to go, fine, if that happens you better be prepared for the seething masses that would head to the greenest pasture on earth called north america. Should this ever happen then you will know how the natives felt when they found out they didn't have this continent to themselves. It will eventually happen as the worlds burgeoning population is going to have to go somewhere. I agree totally with you that the earth is overpopulated, we are way beyond the sustainable carrying capacity of our habitat called earth. If we were smart we would build a wall around this continent,bring in some sound sustainable population management, forget about the rest of the world, let it all fly to hell as it seems to be halfway there already. IMHO we should concentrate on preserving some sort our own sustainable quality of life for the future while we still can, before things all fly to hell here too.
27 May 2004, 19:10
David_ParenteauThanks Kutenaymtnboy,I don't think that I couldn have said it any better myself so I won't even try.I think thats its time to ignore this troll now and move onto other things.
Dave
28 May 2004, 03:06
dan belisle"It will eventually happen as the worlds burgeoning population is going to have to go somewhere. I agree totally with you that the earth is overpopulated, we are way beyond the sustainable carrying capacity of our habitat called earth. If we were smart we would build a wall around this continent,bring in some sound sustainable population management, forget about the rest of the world, let it all fly to hell as it seems to be halfway there already."
Or stop putting all our eggs in one basket, quit pissing our money away on social programns that are merely bandaids in the long run, and concentrate on getting off this rock. Just a thought. - Dan
28 May 2004, 04:26
<Guest>Kutenaymtboy & Others
With all due respect, by some of your statements you have shown that you have misunderstood me completely.
As I have said before, my tirade is not directed solely at Canada.
If Canadian hunters are forbidden from coming here to hunt, I would do away with that as well if I could.
Once again, the way to deal with impact on game populations is probably to limit the number of hunters each year. I have repeatedly said I have no problems with that. If your Province limits nonresidents to 1 a year to preserve the population of you sheep, that is fine with me. Perfectly fine with me. But if I get that 1 tag, then I should be able to hunt that sheep the way I want to.
As far as there being no governments so there would be no need for lawyers, that would suit me fine. Maybe I could then go out and get a job that would make me some money instead of devoting most of my time (probably about 80%)to volunteer work to help poor and needy people who need representation or otherwise they would get screwed by those governments!!!!! I am betting that I make in 6 years what you make in one year!!!
Lastly, please get it out of your head that I somehow think that Canada is not a soverign nation. Just because it is doesnt' mean I cannot criticise it, and again, I, as an American Citizen welcome your criticism of my country!!!!
Blue