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05 June 2008, 22:00
COOL
TRANSLATION NEEDED
I purchased a box of 9mm.
There are 36 bullets on what looks like 6 stripper clips fused together.
The bullet heads are black and have a bright blue ring at the neck.



9 mm kptr m/39

Far endast anvandas i vapen med losskjutningspipa utan losskjutningsskydd
07 June 2008, 11:50
Scrappy1
I don't know dude, but I'm going to bump this thread so you don't kill yourself by shooting them Big Grin
08 June 2008, 00:44
COOL
quote:
Originally posted by Scrappy1:
I don't know dude, but I'm going to bump this thread so you don't kill yourself by shooting them Big Grin


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08 June 2008, 02:52
mete
It's one of the Scandinavian languages to narrow it down a bit ! Roll Eyes
08 June 2008, 13:31
Lost Sheep
quote:
Originally posted by COOL:
I purchased a box of 9mm.
There are 36 bullets on what looks like 6 stripper clips fused together.
The bullet heads are black and have a bright blue ring at the neck.



9 mm kptr m/39

Far endast anvandas i vapen med losskjutningspipa utan losskjutningsskydd


I believe that language may be Swedish. I Googled each word in the phrase and found that "anvandas" led me to a lind to Linköping University which is in Sweden. A tenuous link, but a clue nontheless.

What does the headstamp look like?

Is ther any other paperwork in the box? Writing on the box?

What are the dimensions of the cartridge/bullet?

Lost Sheep
08 June 2008, 13:50
Lost Sheep
quote:
Originally posted by Snowdog on the thread, "http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4509797"


quote:
The 36 round box is marked "9mm kptr m/39" and the headstamp on each cartridge is a 6 to the left of the primer, a 035 at the bottom of the primer and a 5 to the right of the primer (which indicates to me it being manufactured in '65). These rounds feature a non-corrosive Berdan primed brass case, plastic bullet (with blue sealant between the bullet and case) and a 5mm iron ball embedded in the tip of the bullet that I assume is for positive feeding or perhaps stability in flight. However, shortly after purchasing these rounds dirt cheap, I read reports that some claimed the iron ball would sometimes end up peening the bore.

Below are the original two threads I created in 2002 at TFL, both include some ballistic findings and small photographs (which I will attempt to attach to this post).

Thanks in advance!

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...light=training

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...light=training


The pictures Snowdog posted look a lot like the rounds you describe. Check out the post and let us know.

Lost Sheep
09 June 2008, 16:07
Wink
There are Danes, Norwegians and Swedes (and even some Finns) on AR. Perhaps a PM to them would help?


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09 June 2008, 17:25
Edmond
Swedish ammo for M 39 (Walther P 38) and SMG m37/ or m39/ (Suomi) as well as for Bergmann MP 34.

The blue ring indicates a reduced charge and bullet weight used in indoor practice with the SMG m45/

Check the bullet weight. if it is 5.5 grams, it is a recent lot made around 2000 in Austria.

what are the markings?

a similar ring on a bullet of 1 gram is an exercise cartridge (blank) working with a special barrel and a BFA.

quote:
Far endast anvandas i vapen med losskjutningspipa utan losskjutningsskydd


these words are similar to German and according to me, they mean

" Only for use in weapons with blank firing barrel or blank firing attachment"
12 June 2008, 22:29
COOL
quote:
Originally posted by Lost Sheep:
quote:
Originally posted by Snowdog on the thread, "http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4509797"


quote:
The 36 round box is marked "9mm kptr m/39" and the headstamp on each cartridge is a 6 to the left of the primer, a 035 at the bottom of the primer and a 5 to the right of the primer (which indicates to me it being manufactured in '65). These rounds feature a non-corrosive Berdan primed brass case, plastic bullet (with blue sealant between the bullet and case) and a 5mm iron ball embedded in the tip of the bullet that I assume is for positive feeding or perhaps stability in flight. However, shortly after purchasing these rounds dirt cheap, I read reports that some claimed the iron ball would sometimes end up peening the bore.

Below are the original two threads I created in 2002 at TFL, both include some ballistic findings and small photographs (which I will attempt to attach to this post).

Thanks in advance!

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...light=training

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...light=training


The pictures Snowdog posted look a lot like the rounds you describe. Check out the post and let us know.

Lost Sheep


BINGO!
You guys nailed it.
The pictures mirror exactly what I purchased.

Thank You, Well Done
22 June 2008, 14:02
Steffen
quote:
Originally posted by COOL:
Far endast anvandas i vapen med

must only be used in guns with

quote:
losskjutningspipa utan losskjutningsskydd

i'm not sure but i think it means something like:
blanksfiring barrel without blanksfiring protection.

i suggest you post this on the european forum, so the swedes can give a 100% correct translation of the last part of the sentence