Tony was actually working hard running the firing line. Obviously if you have watched the video clip you would understand that there were no minimum standards on being photogenic.
Mike
08 November 2016, 00:00
Biebs
Mike, now that your 88B is hopelessly outdated, maybe I'll take it off your hands :-)
08 November 2016, 01:39
LHeym500
quote:
Originally posted by Mjines Obviously if you have watched the video clip you would understand that there were no minimum standards on being photogenic.
That is true. And you know it is, because I am in it. Nor were there min standards on acting. Again, I am a case in point. What am I to do; a face for radio a voice for silent film.
09 November 2016, 02:19
new_guy
One such option that might increase the cost a bit would be flat-top checkering.
Here is the owner of Heym T. Wolkmann (Mister Heym) with the "old Heym 88 B" (and two other Heym bolt actions) in Afrika in this summer of 2016. Next year with the new one also...
10 November 2016, 17:46
LHeym500
The skirt is comming up.
11 November 2016, 05:44
Double BC
[QUOTE]Originally posted by new_guy: One such option that might increase the cost a bit would be flat-top checkering.
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Nice
14 November 2016, 18:34
gbs
The wait for introduction may be over but I now anxiously await my 89B 450NE with a case hardened receiver. I have wanted a 450NE due to the selection of bullets for hand loading and was going to have JJ convert my 458 Winchester 88B to 450NE but after seeing the 89B at Heym shoot (I am the first guy in the video.)I could not resist the much trimmer box lock, classis stock, lower safety, etc.
I would suggest you come to one of the shows and shoulder the rifle as pictures really won't allow a full appreciation of the new rifle.
14 November 2016, 23:19
Biebs
Welcome to AR! Plenty of double rifle cranks here.
15 November 2016, 01:46
Nakihunter
Any indications on price.
I know that it was hinted at being above the base **B and less than the fancy model.
Would that make it around US$22k??
Interesting to compare that to the classic old British double prices now.
Holts auctions have a few H&H doubles with new barrels from Ferlach
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
If you don't mind my asking... What the sticker on one of these puppies ? Pretty basic, light scroll, case colored, and maybe a a silver oval ?
18 November 2016, 08:24
BaxterB
Credit where credit is due - very nice looking rifle.
18 November 2016, 09:42
Red River Jake
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BaxterB: Credit where credit is due - very nice looking rifle.[/QUOTE
+5
18 November 2016, 09:49
Nakihunter
Very nice. Any hints on price?
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
18 November 2016, 10:15
HendrikNZ
very nice!
18 November 2016, 18:56
LHeym500
Sometime ago there was a thread about Russian/Euros perfected styling based on orders of Heym rifles vs. American styling (more English) in terms of engraving and stock/forend shape.
It will be curious if the Russians/Euros jump on the 89B, or retain a desire for bevertail forends and etc. I love the new site.
19 November 2016, 18:17
Clan_Colla
quote:
Originally posted by Red River Jake: If you don't mind my asking... What the sticker on one of these puppies ? Pretty basic, light scroll, case colored, and maybe a a silver oval ?
Chris is in Africa. More will be available after he returns.
23 November 2016, 01:25
Clan_Colla
FYI- Chris posted new pics on Facebook of the rifle in Moz-
23 November 2016, 02:29
enfieldspares
Speaking as a "Brit" that is a seriously fine good double rifle.
There doesn't appear to be any part of it that can be criticised except, to my taste, I wouldn't have mounted the mid-sight on that "battue" rib.
I tpredict this rifle will come to be regarded as a true classic.
23 November 2016, 04:36
twobobbwana
I applaud the changes they've made. They obviously listened to the market place.
The engraving ???? Not to my taste.
Perhaps they should also look to the English double rifles for that.
23 November 2016, 12:33
enfieldspares
Re the engraving I agree. I'd prefer either fine lining only or full coverage. Partial coverage is hugely difficult to get to look right. Very few really succedeed.
25 November 2016, 23:40
new_guy
Thanks for the compliments. We are really excited about this rifle.
> Engraving: there are three "standard" patterns, and they range from traditional border and banner to full coverage. The pattern on the rifle you've seen has been modified, and it will become the mid-grade.
Photos of all three grades will be available in the next few weeks and will include versions of each that are case-hardened (bone & charcoal) as well.
> Rear sight location: We can locate the rear sight wherever along the rib the client likes.
We've just wrapped a buffalo hunt with an 89B, and I'll try to get some photos posted here, or you can find them on Facebook.
Just the two fine lines just inside the edges of each part - action, action fences, fore end iron, fore end finial, tang and trigger guard, top lever, bottom plate, breeches - with no other engraving except of the pins (screws) for the top lever, tang screws, cross pin "end".
So like this. My own father's gun was a Clarke too. Serial 11749 so it has the same fine line engraving. And on the side of the action and barrel rib the maker's name. With the serial number on the tang.
It does actually look very classy as it emphasises the form of the gun and doesn't attempt to dress it up.
I think there's nothing worse than less than well executed part engraving. It is very difficult to do "right" on a boxlock.
As it can end uo looking as if you want engraving but can't afford to have it done to "best boxlock" quality and coverage.
Hope it helps. I am out of country until 6 December but if you wanted pictures I can e-mail them.
Drop me a PM.
26 November 2016, 12:50
ozhunter
quote:
Originally posted by enfieldspares: I prefer even more minimalist than that.
Just the two fine lines just inside the edges of each part - action, action fences, fore end iron, fore end finial, tang and trigger guard, top lever, bottom plate, breeches - with no other engraving except of the pins (screws) for the top lever, tang screws, cross pin "end".
So like this. My own father's gun was a Clarke too. Serial 11749 so it has the same fine line engraving. And on the side of the action and barrel rib the maker's name. With the serial number on the tang.
It does actually look very classy as it emphasises the form of the gun and doesn't attempt to dress it up.
I think there's nothing worse than less than well executed part engraving. It is very difficult to do "right" on a boxlock.
As it can end uo looking as if you want engraving but can't afford to have it done to "best boxlock" quality and coverage.
Hope it helps. I am out of country until 6 December but if you wanted pictures I can e-mail them.
Drop me a PM.
Similar border engraving to Holland & Holland's Domminion range of Double Rifles?
27 November 2016, 23:04
Zephyr
This is a key detachable Side Lock by J Lang and Son. When I first read the gun's description I was somewhat turned by the lack of engraving since then I am more and more impressed by it's simplicity
I see you make them up to and including .577NE....why no .600..
28 November 2016, 16:23
new_guy
quote:
Originally posted by Pondoro: British styling and german quality....I love it..
I see you make them up to and including .577NE....why no .600..
Thanks, Pondoro.
On the one hand, there's just not as much demand for 600s as one might think.
Secondly, a 600 (in my opinion) really needs to weigh quite a bit more than a 577 to be manageable, and that necessitates a separate frame size to distribute the weight correctly.
In absence of a completely new frame size, the the compromise is a set of 600 barrels on a 577 frame, and that just doesn't handle correctly.
We do build the 600 on our largest framed sidelock (the Jumbo), but - there again - there are a lot more 577s built than there are 600s.
This is the "base grade" 89B. No engraving, just case colors (bone and charcoal... no cyanide or other chemicals.) From here, engraving patterns can be added (with or without case colors.)
All 89B rifles come standard with the long trigger guard and steel grip cap.
Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"
"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
Just a question - is that the traditional English CC or is that the Turnbull style?
To my novice eyes it looks more like the Turnbull style while I prefer the English CC. But I must admit that I have not seen a brand new English (classic) CC to make a fair comparison.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
06 December 2016, 02:31
Clan_Colla
quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter: Wow! That is incredible.
Just a question - is that the traditional English CC or is that the Turnbull style?
To my novice eyes it looks more like the Turnbull style while I prefer the English CC. But I must admit that I have not seen a brand new English (classic) CC to make a fair comparison.
The Case Color is created by the classic bone/charcoal method- and is done in Germany.
06 December 2016, 03:06
Nakihunter
Thanks for that. I am aware of that.
What is the method used by Turnbull?
I do not like the bright and gaudy effect his CC has.
This one on the new Hyme also looks a bit bright (hard to compare accurately with just a small web photo).
The English classic is quite distinct & subtle compared to the more vivid American type.
quote:
Originally posted by Clan_Colla:
quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter: Wow! That is incredible.
Just a question - is that the traditional English CC or is that the Turnbull style?
To my novice eyes it looks more like the Turnbull style while I prefer the English CC. But I must admit that I have not seen a brand new English (classic) CC to make a fair comparison.
The Case Color is created by the classic bone/charcoal method- and is done in Germany.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
