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Lancaster Sidelock 450/400
10 November 2013, 03:32
fla3006Lancaster Sidelock 450/400
http://www.amoskeagauction.com/98/60.html
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10 November 2013, 04:50
hunteratheartBeautiful gun!
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Sabatti 450\400 NE
Merkel 140-2 500 NE
10 November 2013, 05:06
505GIt is a lovely gun that I nearly purchased a few years ago now. I picked a WR Droplock instead
being the rarer of the two.
That gun shoots, I used to know the previous owner to the one I looked at it with.
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10 November 2013, 12:32
huskyDoes it have Oval bore barrells?
10 November 2013, 16:33
ZephyrLovely fences, it appears to be a back action lock.
11 November 2013, 04:31
bwanamrmAny guesses what that gun would sell for? I would venture $30K to $38K...
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11 November 2013, 07:50
NakihunterWow! That is sweet!
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11 November 2013, 20:15
Dutch44Husky:
It was my understanding that the oval bores were for BPE rifles. However, I would like to know if Lancaster made oval bores for NE. I have never seen them but that doesn't mean they didn't use them. I thought oval bores were utilized more for the obturation of lead projectiles and ease in cleaning black powder fouling from rounded grooves.
Dutch
11 November 2013, 20:45
505GI am waiting to ask a previous owner of this rifle who is away until Wednesday.
From memory I thought this was rifled but wanted to check. The person I need to ask shoots a number of oval bores and seems to be able to get them to work fine.
I doubt I would have looked at this rifle if it had been oval bores.
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11 November 2013, 22:40
HuviusThis one has regular Enfield rifling I believe.
Lancaster did make oval bore nitro proved 303s.
I almost got one once but it wouldn't shoot any load or bullet well enough to keep.
12 November 2013, 13:33
RhodesFor what it's worth, COTW lists the 375/303 WR as being available in high velocity Westley double rifles with Lancaster oval bore rifling from 1905. This one was loaded with axite powder. I have no idea about the 400 bores.
12 November 2013, 14:12
jvw375quote:
Originally posted by Dutch44:
Husky:
It was my understanding that the oval bores were for BPE rifles. However, I would like to know if Lancaster made oval bores for NE. I have never seen them but that doesn't mean they didn't use them. I thought oval bores were utilized more for the obturation of lead projectiles and ease in cleaning black powder fouling from rounded grooves.
Dutch
FWIW, a friend has three Lancaster rifles from the Nitro era with oval boring. One is a bolt-action .404 on an opened-up M98 action, the second a .280 boxlock ejector double and the third a .280 on a M98 action.
13 November 2013, 05:40
Dutch44Would be interested to know why or when they quit utilizing the oval bore in the NE's?
Dutch
13 November 2013, 14:57
PondoroLancaster states in their 1924 catalouge that they have dropped oval bore for nitro rifles.....vaguely stating that conventional rifling works better with high velocity..