Heym 89B?

08 January 2019, 10:25

DCS Member

Everything I’ve seen has been great. Granted, it has been from Phil Massaro and Chris Sells. Nothing wrong with that at all. Both are good guys. It is probably as close as a baspokegun you can get these days without too much wait, but don’t quote me on that.

Heym did listen to many here (I don’t know where else, but they did) about making it more “British” like.

However, it’s just out of my price range. One of these days...

12 January 2019, 00:19

gbs

I have an 89B in 450NE with case hardening, engraved, and upgraded wood. The fit and finish on the metal is about the same as on my 88Bs which is VERY good.

Because I opted for the flat checkering the wood finish is glossy which also shows off the upgraded wood's grain. The wood finish and checkering is impeccable. I will probably cover the butt stock with a strap on cover to protect the stock, cover the gloss, and raise the line of site as I will be using a RMR sight for hunting later this year.

If you have ever had the chance to fire the 88B, the 89B has a distinctly different feel. This is probably due to the 89B receiver contour, stocking, barrel contours, etc being basically a copy of the classic British double rifle. One of the pleasant advantages of the more open grip is the trigger guard does not bark you finger like he 88B does. To me the 89B just feels much more refined than the 88B and shoulders/swings better than the 88B.

I would also like to mention one of the reasons I have Heym double is they have a secondary sear that prevents firing in case of a shock to the rifle such as a fall or dropping of the rifle. I personally know of a case where another double rifle inadvertently fired when it fell over after being leaned up against a tree and have head of several others.

I hope you enjoy the DSC show and the Heym booth. I would suggest getting to the booth early as it becomes very busy.

12 January 2019, 05:34

PD999

quote:
Originally posted by gbs:
I would also like to mention one of the reasons I have Heym double is they have a secondary sear that prevents firing in case of a shock to the rifle such as a fall or dropping of the rifle.

That's a big plus, when compared to the doubles made by competitors in that price range.

12 January 2019, 07:29

10generation

thanks very much GBS, great feedback.

12 January 2019, 15:27

ozhunter

GBS,
Great choice in Calibre!
I tbink we might catch up in buffalo country later in the year?
Those intersepting sears sound the way forward and could be worth getting installed in any double one purchases. I had them installed in my last double and they will be in my new 450NE.
Question for those who might know, how full proof are the intersepting sears to work ?

12 January 2019, 19:52

Bill73

quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
GBS,
Great choice in Calibre!
I tbink we might catch up in buffalo country later in the year?
Those intersepting sears sound the way forward and could be worth getting installed in any double one purchases. I had them installed in my last double and they will be in my new 450NE.
Question for those who might know, how full proof are the intersepting sears to work ?

Very good question,I am interested in the answer as well,I will add that I have stumbled & fallen once,my gun did hit the ground,butt first if I remember correctly? It did not fire,
I would also like to ask if anyone has had their gun doubling on them with a gun that has these sears?I do not mean strumming the rear trigger.

12 January 2019, 21:28

gbs

From my understanding the interrupting sears are very robust.

I can say my three Heym big bore doubles have never doubled and brand new 470 rifle of another brand doubled twice in the first 40 rounds. One reason I now have Heyms is their reputation for being bullet proof and well sorted out from the factory.

13 January 2019, 04:30

BaxterB

quote:
Originally posted by gbs:
I have an 89B in 450NE with case hardening, engraved, and upgraded wood. The fit and finish on the metal is about the same as on my 88Bs which is VERY good.

Because I opted for the flat checkering the wood finish is glossy which also shows off the upgraded wood's grain. The wood finish and checkering is impeccable. I will probably cover the butt stock with a strap on cover to protect the stock, cover the gloss, and raise the line of site as I will be using a RMR sight for hunting later this year.

If you have ever had the chance to fire the 88B, the 89B has a distinctly different feel. This is probably due to the 89B receiver contour, stocking, barrel contours, etc being basically a copy of the classic British double rifle. One of the pleasant advantages of the more open grip is the trigger guard does not bark you finger like he 88B does. To me the 89B just feels much more refined than the 88B and shoulders/swings better than the 88B.

I would also like to mention one of the reasons I have Heym double is they have a secondary sear that prevents firing in case of a shock to the rifle such as a fall or dropping of the rifle. I personally know of a case where another double rifle inadvertently fired when it fell over after being leaned up against a tree and have head of several others.

I hope you enjoy the DSC show and the Heym booth. I would suggest getting to the booth early as it becomes very busy.

I’d love to see pics of that. Sounds a beaut

13 January 2019, 07:31

ozhunter

Bill73.
for memory, there was a PH who lost an arm due to a AD from a double that hit the deck.
for memory this rifle had Intercepting sears?
not interested in the brand, rather if Intercepting sears are full proof.

13 January 2019, 09:49

10generation

This was PH incident you are referencing.

PH ANTHONY HOWLAND ACCIDENT/JUNE 20

Just to let you know Anthony Howland was accidentally shot in the right elbow this morning they were away walking and all jumped over a small water course [spring] when the client jumped his rifle sling slipped off his shoulder and in the process of trying to catch it and it hitting the ground the .500 nitro went off hitting Ant in the right elbow. A huge ordeal followed as they were far from the truck and had to stop the bleeding as well as carry him out they radioed the river camp who phoned me in Harare, I then had him air lifted out from the near by air strip, he arrived in Harare where we had organised blood donors as he is A neg and were worried as to how much blood was available for him. Got a top surgeon to see him, the arm was very badly damaged and could not be saved, it was amputated just above the elbow, He is stable now and will need further surgery in a few days.
Gavin

I did a day with Monty Kalogeras getting some tips on shooting big bore rifles. He was with this group when the accident happened, absolutely terrible, really effected him.

13 January 2019, 11:09

ozhunter

10generation
yes, know of the details but would like to know if Intercepting sears will STOP this from happening or just minimize the chances of the firing pins from going off with SAFETY on.

14 January 2019, 00:06

Clan_Colla

quote:
Originally posted by 10generation:
Planning to visit Chris at DSC and check them out.

We will look forward to seeing you in the booth.

Chris and Tony are still on the road back from Reno.

I drew the short straw and had to fly back

14 January 2019, 09:42

10generation

Ozhunter, I don't know but this will keep thread bumped up and see if one of the guys with more technical knowledge can answer.

15 January 2019, 08:15

sambarman338

quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
10generation
yes, know of the details but would like to know if Intercepting sears will STOP this from happening or just minimize the chances of the firing pins from going off with SAFETY on.

Dunno the answer, either, though I had assumed it should stop the piece going off if the triggers are not pulled. However, the question reminds me of the lawyer's safety on my Miroku Win 86. I bought a couple of snap caps and cycled them through the action, pulling the trigger without realising the 'safety' was still on. Do these things usually have indents in the 'primers' before you use them?

18 January 2019, 05:25

gbs

I did check with Heym and looked at a barreled action in white and after doing so I would agree with Heym that these would not jar off or allow doubling due to shock loads from the first shot.

I was also told the rifle in the accident described above was not a Heym on which the safety sear failed to perform.