"Clipped fences"?

23 February 2012, 13:52

ozhunter

"Clipped fences"?

What are "Clipped fences" as advertised by Westley Richards?
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23 February 2012, 16:01

srose

Are you talking about "Side clips"

23 February 2012, 23:40

MacD37

“ CLIPED FENCES” are angled extentions on each side of the of the standing breech that extend to each side of the barrels to dampen side strain.

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24 February 2012, 00:19

srose

You learn something new everyday.

Mac who made that double it is beautiful?

24 February 2012, 00:27

Huvius

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24 February 2012, 06:22

lavaca

And this is why we are so glad Mac is back and in good health. He knows more than just about anyone about doubles. Probably about some other stuff too.

24 February 2012, 09:31

ozhunter

Cheers.

24 February 2012, 22:06

new_guy

quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
“ CLIPED FENCES” are angled extentions on each side of the of the standing breech that extend to each side of the barrels to dampen side strain.

I would say those are "Side Clips."

The "Fences" are the balls of the action behind the barrels.

This gun below definitely has "Side Clips" and "Chiseled Fences."

I'm not familiar with the term "Clipped Fences."

25 February 2012, 01:09

oldun

I too know these as side clips, they were; if memory serves, a Purdey development.

25 February 2012, 05:56

sambarman338

Historically, of course, the fences were a raised shield behind the pan or nipple, saluted decoratively in some modern arms by a curved groove behind the standing breech, as in the pic above. Perhaps 'clipped fences' refers to this chiselled fence line echoing the shape of the sideclips.

Alternatively, a clipped fence might refer to a well-maintained hedge used a boundary - at least until the local private-school boys set it alight.

25 February 2012, 06:17

MacD37

Fences - Hemispherical outgrowths of the receiver of a double gun that mate with the breech ends of the barrels. In this case, fences with Side clips. Or "clipped fences"

25 February 2012, 18:39

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by oldun:
I too know these as side clips, they were; if memory serves, a Purdey development.

That could very well be the case! However the place I've seen them most has always been on German made doubles. I have examples made at the turn of the 19th/20th century with side clips, and I don'think I've ever seen more than a couple of German doubles without them.

That fact really doesn't mean much because the Greener cross bolt is also an English thing that is found more on German doubles than English ones.

25 February 2012, 20:02

ledvm

I thought side-clips were a Greener design as well...not sure...just my recollection from reading.

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25 February 2012, 20:15

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
I thought side-clips were a Greener design as well...not sure...just my recollection from reading.

Could very well be! I would love to know for sure out of simple curiosity.

25 February 2012, 23:02

gatsby

It must have been an early development. Holland was using them in the 1880's. English clips are blended seamlessly into the barrels the edges are very thin and sharp.