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H&H 450/400 2 3/8"
18 June 2012, 22:46
465H&HNow that is a "Best Quality" rifle.
465H&H
18 June 2012, 22:49
Supercrackerdo you have any pics of the lock internals? I'm curious exactly how the safety is secured and moves on/in the lock.
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What a tease! Pulled up her skirts and then didn't show us her knickers! I'd like to see the lockworks please.
Otherwise, what a gorgeous gun!!!!
Ellis450
18 June 2012, 23:08
vagrouserThanks 465. It is a sweetheart of a rifle.
Supercracker, this is as good as I have right now...
And some more of the mortises...
18 June 2012, 23:12
vagrouserWow, these pics really suck...
I'll see about some better ones when I have a little more free time.
The locks are the most diminutive little things I've handled. Compare with the reference dime.
The baize is tatty, but the case is otherwise in outstanding condition. The whole thing (rifle included) smells like an old person!
18 June 2012, 23:12
DoubleDonBill, you're having way too much fun. We need to get you to work. Congrats on your beautiful little Holland!

Deo Vindice,
Don
Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780
Bill, I just saw that somewhere for sale recently...no?
19 June 2012, 00:25
vagrouserHi Jon,
I think that there was a similar rifle at auction in the last year or so. This particular rifle was a private party sale and wasn't advertised to the best of my knowledge.
19 June 2012, 00:25
vagrouserThanks Don--I'm looking forward to getting together. It's been too long.
Bill
An almost identical rifle exists in Australia
- well it did, it could be anywhere by now.
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19 June 2012, 03:20
Dutch44Stunningly beautiful. I would assume accurate as well. You are indeed fortunate.
Dutch
19 June 2012, 06:21
vagrouser
Thanks Dutch. No idea if it'll shoot as I haven't gotten everything together yet. I was told by the previous owner that accuracy was very good.
I just got a copy (from Cornell publications) of a H&H catalog from 1887-1890. They show a 230gr grooved bullet in the line up. Price appears to be 55 Guineas vs 60 for the new-fangled hammerless Royal.
19 June 2012, 18:32
Supercrackerquote:
Originally posted by vagrouser:
Supercracker, this is as good as I have right now...
Thanks, I haven't yet had the opportunity to handle a rifle with this type of stalking safety and I'm trying to figure exactly how the slider is retained in the lock plate. I'm just getting started on a English styled ML rifle build and hope to duplicate this type of safety.
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