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Foresight size and material
30 July 2016, 06:49
RockdocForesight size and material
Curious as to what you think is the ideal foresight size and material for your double.
I have two set of barrels by the same maker that measure approximately 0.065". They are easily lost against some backgrounds. The fold-up moon sights are nearly three times that size. I must admit I have used them at times!
I also have a spare foresight for a magazine rifle that states, on the old paper bag it is wrapped in, "fitted with ivory back", however the ivory has gone.
Foresights:
DRSS
30 July 2016, 09:10
cal pappasFor what it is worth…
When I hunt I carry a small one ounce bottle of White Out with me. I have used it often in the bush--once when I lost the ivory bead of the original sight and several times to brighten what is already there. It won't last long when the rifle is in and out of a soft case, but is easily and quickly applied with the small foam tip applicator. The dried drop of white out is larger than the original bead by a little--I think the original bead is 3/32 or 1/16 of an inch--but smaller than the night sight. And, it is far brighter than the original ivory or replacement plastic.
Anyway,just what I do.
Cal
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30 July 2016, 10:01
RockdocThanks Cal. I will try that. What a simple effective remedy!
Cheers, Chris
DRSS
30 July 2016, 13:04
DCS MemberUggh, rich people problems.
Rockdoc, beautiful arsenal.
I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.
Marcus Cady
DRSS
30 July 2016, 15:10
RockdocOne rifle, two sets barrels!
DRSS
Why not a fiber optic front sight? Krieghoff offers this on their Big Five Classic doubles. Mine is in 500/416 and I sent the gun back to have it fitted. VERY fast acquisition.
Peter
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31 July 2016, 07:01
cal pappasquote:
Originally posted by Rockdoc:
Curious as to what you think is the ideal foresight size and material for your double.
I have two set of barrels by the same maker that measure approximately 0.065". They are easily lost against some backgrounds. The fold-up moon sights are nearly three times that size. I must admit I have used them at times!
I also have a spare foresight for a magazine rifle that states, on the old paper bag it is wrapped in, "fitted with ivory back", however the ivory has gone.
Foresights:
A fiber optic sight on these beauties? NEVER!
Cal
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www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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01 August 2016, 02:58
twoseventyquote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
For what it is worth…
When I hunt I carry a small one ounce bottle of White Out with me. I have used it often in the bush--once when I lost the ivory bead of the original sight and several times to brighten what is already there. It won't last long when the rifle is in and out of a soft case, but is easily and quickly applied with the small foam tip applicator. The dried drop of white out is larger than the original bead by a little--I think the original bead is 3/32 or 1/16 of an inch--but smaller than the night sight. And, it is far brighter than the original ivory or replacement plastic.
Anyway,just what I do.
Cal
I do the same thing but with finger nail polish. Takes a little time to find the right color and finish, but lasts quite a while. Take the bottle with you if the sight needs a tune up, but they usually last the whole hunt.
Tom
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01 August 2016, 04:10
RockdocGreat idea. Any particular colour you have found works best?
Might get some odd looks when I uncase the rifle and get out the fingernail polish
Also I think a larger bead might help.
DRSS
01 August 2016, 05:18
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
For what it is worth…
When I hunt I carry a small one ounce bottle of White Out with me. I have used it often in the bush--once when I lost the ivory bead of the original sight and several times to brighten what is already there. It won't last long when the rifle is in and out of a soft case, but is easily and quickly applied with the small foam tip applicator. The dried drop of white out is larger than the original bead by a little--I think the original bead is 3/32 or 1/16 of an inch--but smaller than the night sight. And, it is far brighter than the original ivory or replacement plastic.
Anyway,just what I do.
Cal
Women's white nail polish works well and is quite hard wearing
01 August 2016, 06:23
Use Enough GunI've also done the same thing with the White Out (Liquid Paper), Nail polish, and/or you can buy small bottles/vials of sight paints. I bought one or two sight paint packets years ago, and ended up with three or four different colors, including bright red, fluorescent orange, brilliant green and white.

Any of the above will require time to harden and you will need to reapply periodically.
02 August 2016, 04:35
PeterOn a separate thread I posted my results using Acrylic paint on the front sight of my SS 1911. Acrylic paint is cheap and can be obtained in flourescent colors like pink. You can buy small bottles for about $1 at arts and crafts shops.
try this link:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...201052112#5201052112Peter
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02 August 2016, 12:52
ozhunterYou could always add some Boar Tusk as the sight Ivory was often Warthog anyway
02 August 2016, 20:51
McKayquote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
You could always add some Boar Tusk as the sight Ivory was often Warthog anyway
I file the very front of all of my round beads flat with just a slight forward/upward slant. I shoot much better and don't have point of impact changes in different lighting conditions like I do with round beads.
Mac
03 August 2016, 03:19
ozhunterI
quote:
Originally posted by McKay:
quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
You could always add some Boar Tusk as the sight Ivory was often Warthog anyway
I file the very front of all of my round beads flat with just a slight forward/upward slant. I shoot much better and don't have point of impact changes in different lighting conditions like I do with round beads.
Completely agree with that
03 August 2016, 04:46
RockdocGents, thank you very much. I will try a drop of White Out to see how that looks.
However, given the small size of the current sights, I like the idea of a larger inclined round, flat faced bead.
Ozhunter, can you let me know who it is at Tamworth please?
Cheers, Chris
DRSS
04 August 2016, 19:19
MartyI'm a fiber optic heathen. At 62 I need to take every advantage if I want to shoot iron sights.
05 August 2016, 21:57
butchlocquite awhile ago i put fiber optics on my merkel 470. green in front with an orange one in the bottom of the rear. just put the green on top of the orange. was really fast
05 August 2016, 22:48
Petermarty, I agree. You can walk around Africa wearing your puttees and solar toupee (pith helmet) all you want, but when it comes to wounding an animal or losing a trophy I want what works.
Peter
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05 August 2016, 23:20
Use Enough GunI have a fluorescent orange front blade sight on my Merkel 470 that was installed by the factory representative here in the U.S. a number of years ago and it makes a huge difference.

I have an old 1908 greener that has a platinum flat front sight. I have found that to be none tarnishing and as visible as any sight I have ever looked at.
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06 August 2016, 10:05
cal pappas16 years ago in Australia some gents were putting industrial diamonds as a front sight and they swore by its brightness. I saw one on Kim's .500 Jeffery.
Cal
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1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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06 August 2016, 12:20
Rockdocquote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
16 years ago in Australia some gents were putting industrial diamonds as a front sight and they swore by its brightness. I saw one on Kim's .500 Jeffery.
Cal
Interesting Cal, I have not heard that before. However the moon sight on the 375 barrels has a clear material insert. Must check and see what it is. With no facets it certainly does not sparkle like a diamond.
Thanks to the gents re the fluoro sights, however, as these are bespoke, I guess I am out of luck with testing them without some reasonable expense!
I will try the white out/paint but I think now the answer may be in attaching a larger flat faced gold bead, inclined forward to the top.
Thanks, Chris
DRSS
06 August 2016, 14:44
ozhunterAt one stage Heym offered a Dimond front sight.
06 August 2016, 14:46
eagle27quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
16 years ago in Australia some gents were putting industrial diamonds as a front sight and they swore by its brightness. I saw one on Kim's .500 Jeffery.
Cal
You mean to say Kim Kardashian has a .500 Jeffery, would be nothing short of a one carat diamond on that front sight.

06 August 2016, 17:56
Rockdocquote:
Originally posted by eagle27:
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
16 years ago in Australia some gents were putting industrial diamonds as a front sight and they swore by its brightness. I saw one on Kim's .500 Jeffery.
Cal
You mean to say Kim Kardashian has a .500 Jeffery, would be nothing short of a one carat diamond on that front sight.
Yeah, and a huge butt!
DRSS
06 August 2016, 18:22
cal pappasquote:
Originally posted by eagle27:
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
16 years ago in Australia some gents were putting industrial diamonds as a front sight and they swore by its brightness. I saw one on Kim's .500 Jeffery.
Cal
You mean to say Kim Kardashian has a .500 Jeffery, would be nothing short of a one carat diamond on that front sight.
Almost. A smaller diamond for the sight and the one carat was the flip up night sight when she hunted elephants via spotlight.
Cal
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www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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06 August 2016, 21:03
LHeym500Mr. Doc:
Could we see pictures of the full rifle for these barrels. The second looks like a HH sight base.
I once saw a vintage English rifle, I think on this site, that had an angled mirror inlett d at the base of the sight to reflect light on the front sight. I thought it was an iligent solution. Maybe more trouble than it is worth. My father in law has warthog ivory beads on all his shotguns. If you have a set lying around.
07 August 2016, 04:09
RockdocLHeym500, travelling this week but will try and post something.
Both H&H, top one 1906, bottom 1950's.
Cheers, Chris
DRSS