We Should All Do As Well At 106 Years Old

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15 May 2013, 22:39

fla3006

We Should All Do As Well At 106 Years Old

16 May 2013, 03:27

Patricio Gaudiano

Very nice..... Speaking of frederiksburg, is the cafe at the airport still open? we would stop by there whenever we were flying around back when I lived in texas...

16 May 2013, 04:20

fla3006

Patricio, yes, the Hangar Hotel. Restaurant isn't the best we have but the Officers' Club is the best bar in town and the hotel is one of the nicest. Great place for flyboys.

17 May 2013, 05:25

Patricio Gaudiano

quote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
Patricio, yes, the Hangar Hotel. Restaurant isn't the best we have but the Officers' Club is the best bar in town and the hotel is one of the nicest. Great place for flyboys.

I remember the food not being the best, but it was allways a great spot to stop for a couple of hours if we had girls with us, they loved the old time decoration, and the hotel allways treated us great. Frederiksburg is a great little town.

17 May 2013, 07:41

sambarman338

Except where used by professional hunters, I don't find it hard to believe a big-bore db might keep 106 years. They were always expensive and, given proper precautions against mercuric priming and not being left to stupid relos in damp houses, they should be shootable for centuries.

That said, it only takes one week of neglect for it to be all over.

17 May 2013, 08:59

N E 450 No2

Mike

That is one fine double...

Looking at the action of that double it looks like the same action Jeffery used for his big bore doubles...

Also the engraving looks like many Jeffery rifles sent to India...

And the rifle shoots like a Jeffery.

If you can, please take a picture of the rearsight, and all its leaves from above.

Then post a picture of the bottom of the action.

Also take a very close look at the ujunderside of the barrels under the forend and see of there is anything stating they are Krupp steel.

Also see if there are any numbers on the barrel foreend hook, or anywhere on the barrels under the foreend.

That double looks like it was made by the same "maker" that made rifles for Jeffery.

17 May 2013, 09:03

N E 450 No2

quote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
Patricio, yes, the Hangar Hotel. Restaurant isn't the best we have but the Officers' Club is the best bar in town and the hotel is one of the nicest. Great place for flyboys.

I have stayed there and eaten there. It is a Nice Place...

17 May 2013, 16:03

Rusty

Beautiful rifle, Mike! Look forward to seeing it at the range!

Rusty
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17 May 2013, 17:24

MJines

Tony,

Here are some additional pictures. The only number I see around the forearm hook is the serial number shown in the pictures. The steel is Guss Stahl Krupp. As shown in the picture of the bottom of the action, this is a rifle that has enjoyed some carry.

21 May 2013, 19:03

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Mike

That is one fine double...

Looking at the action of that double it looks like the same action Jeffery used for his big bore doubles...

Also the engraving looks like many Jeffery rifles sent to India...

And the rifle shoots like a Jeffery.

If you can, please take a picture of the rearsight, and all its leaves from above.

Then post a picture of the bottom of the action.

Also take a very close look at the ujunderside of the barrels under the forend and see of there is anything stating they are Krupp steel.

Also see if there are any numbers on the barrel foreend hook, or anywhere on the barrels under the foreend.

That double looks like it was made by the same "maker" that made rifles for Jeffery.

So Tony, based on the pictures, what do you think?

21 May 2013, 19:10

505G

quote:
That double looks like it was made by the same "maker" that made rifles for Jeffery.

NE 450 No 2

Are you talking about Leonard with the above comment ?

The rifle does look a bit "Jeffery'ish"
but until I research further, something different about the fences.

21 May 2013, 19:26

Alaskaman11

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
quote:
That double looks like it was made by the same "maker" that made rifles for Jeffery.

NE 450 No 2

Are you talking about Leonard with the above comment ?

The rifle does look a bit "Jeffery'ish"
but until I research further, something different about the fences.

Did Jeffery's not make rifles, leaving them in the white so other company's could finsh them off under there own name?

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21 May 2013, 23:46

Rusty

Alaskaman11,

Actually Jeffery bought completed rifles from such people as Leonard made to the customer's orders. Jeffery like many of the 'name' gun houses was just a "Boutique". A review of their 'day book' bears this out. The rifle Mike has, I believe, is not made by Leonard. It was probably made by Luruer( if I'm reading my copy right?). My friend David Guitar's W. J Jeffery in 475 #2 Jeffery was supplied by Luruer.

21 May 2013, 23:50

shootaway

Always good to know who built the rifle you bought!

21 May 2013, 23:56

Rusty

W. J Jeffery 475 #2 Jeffery

22 May 2013, 06:41

MJines

Thanks Rusty. There is definitely a familial resemblance.

I took the rifle out again Friday to see if the first target shot with the North Forks was a fluke. No fluke.

22 May 2013, 08:50

bwanamrm

Have you have been letting Shootaway sight in your rifles again?

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22 May 2013, 17:09

jorge

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Thanks Rusty. There is definitely a familial resemblance.

I took the rifle out again Friday to see if the first target shot with the North Forks was a fluke. No fluke.

Mike, what range, 50 yds?

22 May 2013, 21:24

MJines

Jorge,

All of the targets were shot at the standard distance for shooting elephants . . . 175 yards.

No, they were both shot at 25 yards.

22 May 2013, 22:17

MikeBurke

And there I was thinking it was another one of your 100 yard offhand targets.

22 May 2013, 22:30

jorge

Sweet, thanks Mike and again LOVELY rifle!

22 May 2013, 22:47

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Mike70560:
And there I was thinking it was another one of your 100 yard offhand targets.

I have not practiced enough or become an accomplished enough shooter to even qualify to attempt to shoot at 100 yards with open sights. It is certainly something I aspire to do one day and yet another reason that I hang on every tidbit of advice George so graciously shares with the rest of us, the great unwashed.

23 May 2013, 00:54

Zephyr

The Navy taught Jorge to see and shoot from far away without the aid of Radar

23 May 2013, 02:00

505G

quote:
Originally posted by Zephyr:
The Navy taught Jorge to see and shoot from far away without the aid of Radar

Jorge is a BVR shooter

23 May 2013, 02:33

jorge

BVR no problem: HARPOON! Although dropping Rockeye on top was a lot more fun!

23 May 2013, 02:38

505G

Should have a shoot off between you and
I think TODD ????

Wasn't he a Navy Fast Jet boy ?

23 May 2013, 02:47

surestrike

I'm a WVA shooter (Without Visual Assistance) because I like to close my eyes right before I pull the trigger.

23 May 2013, 02:54

pagosawingnut

Thanks surestrike. I was wondering what they called my condition

23 May 2013, 04:21

jorge

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
Should have a shoot off between you and
I think TODD ????

Wasn't he a Navy Fast Jet boy ?

And a lot faster than me! He was an F/A-18 driver!