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Why it's best to pull the rear trigger first.......
02 October 2009, 03:42
BigFiveJackWhy it's best to pull the rear trigger first.......
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Originally posted by xs headspace:
Wassamatter with setscrews in the muzzle?? I built my DR with the last 12" or so of the left barrel floating, with angled setscrews in the front sight block, so I can adjust regulation, if I decide to change bullet weight in the future.
Stocked in Kevlar I expect....

Jack
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03 October 2009, 06:40
<xs headspace>No, it's got the same stock that Gebruder Merkel put on it in 1972, when it was a 12 ga, except for the recoil pad. Check out the latest Merkel DR on their website. The one with the 2 setscrews in the front sight block. Wiseass.
03 October 2009, 06:53
Hog Killerquote:
Why it's best to pull the rear trigger first.......
That is like saying you want to "French kiss" your sister,, it is just WRONG.

Keitrh
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03 October 2009, 18:07
R D Showquote]Why it's best to pull the rear trigger first[/quote]
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That is like saying you want to "French kiss" your sister,, it is just WRONG.
I can only asume you are an expert at both since you make a comparison between the two.

03 October 2009, 22:17
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by xs headspace:
No, it's got the same stock that Gebruder Merkel put on it in 1972, when it
was a 12 ga, except for the recoil pad. Check out the latest Merkel DR on their
website. The one with the 2 setscrews in the front sight block. Wiseass.
Sincerely XS H,
The final word in your response to my post indicates my attempt to "rib you"
in a friendly way failed. I thought the

after my kevlar comment would be a
clear indicator that I was trying to get a smile or chuckle out of you. I'm
truly sorry my intentions did not cross the "net" very well.
I am a hopeless shill for the vintage U.K. built doubles. No others strike me
really, except for new U.K. built doubles, IF they are done using the traditional
methods. If I could replicate for the world the Webley built A&WC action body, and
bbls fitted correctly, well I can't imagine any other work that I could possibly
do that would give more joy. Though I'd like to try being a PH in Buzz Charlton's
outfit, and as long as I am dreaming I might as well add being a 600NE toting, pre
World War I ivory and man eater hunter.
Any way, sorry again.
Cordially,
Jack
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06 October 2009, 04:17
bigdoggy700I have always shot the front trigger first, habit I guess.
06 October 2009, 04:51
N E 450 No2Now THERE IS a time when you want to pull the rear trigger first.
And this is one of the BIG advantages of a double rifle.
When cape buff hunting it is a fairly common practice to carry a SOFT in the right barrel and a SOLID in the left.
The idea is, you shoot the Soft first, and then the soliod if he charges or turns to run and the angle requires a deep penetrating shot.
OR MAYBE your first shot is one that needs a DEEP penetrating bullet, or a buff busts out of the high grass at poing plank range, or an elephant "suddenly appears" and grabs you around the ankle....
So, with a double you have the IMMEDIATE CHOICE between a Soft OR a Solid.
Also if you see that you need 2 Softs, or 2 Solids, and have a little time, you can SILENTLY open your double, and place the proper ammo in the chambers.
Usually these sudden choices occur close enough to the muzzle of the double that regulation differences are not an issue.
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06 October 2009, 23:02
400 Nitro Expressquote:
I see a sleeved shotgun. Have you ever built a double rifle?
F. W. Heym has been in the business since 1865, and has been building double rifles since the 1920s at the latest, perhaps earlier. They build quite a few today. They obviously disagree with you, as do virtually all other top gunmakers in the world. They all set up their sxs doubles, shotguns and rifles alike, to fire the outside (right) barrel first (front trigger). The only exception is the full custom gun for a left-hander, in which the dynamics are reversed, and thus so is the order. The outside barrel is still fired first by the front trigger, but is now the left barrel, while the rear fires the right.
Like I said, amusing how many novices consider their knowledge superior to that accumulated by many generations of the world's best gunmakers.
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07 October 2009, 02:04
eezridrI am truely a novice at this SXS rifle shooting. I have shot as suggested (Right then within 8 seconds the left) and I have shot the left barrel alone when cool.
In all instances the left barrel printed the same (which is fine with me). In my sampling it did not appear that the barrels were slaved to one another for regulation (not trying to enter a debate here; LOL). The sampling was probably no more than 30 rounds at 35 yards.
My only issue was the rifle printing @ 6 oclock about 3". This may be due to the gun be regulated with a milder load than I was shooting. I remedied than with a lower front post! All is good now.
My finger has never slipped off the front trigger to the back.
07 October 2009, 02:57
N E 450 No2eezrider
Difference in regulation will not usually show up under 50 yards.
Case in point in my 9,3x74R Chapuis, at 50 yards it does not make any difference what bullet weight I shoot or in what order I shoot the barrels the shots will almost always touch.
At 100 yards these things make a big difference.
On some doubles there mightn not be very much difference, you do not know till you test your gun with your loads.
I can say this, and I have hunted my doubles in places, and for game, that are not normally considered "Double Rifle Territority", I have never missed a shot, or had to pass on a shot because I was hunting with a double rifle.
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07 October 2009, 04:29
eezridrNE 450,
I have not shot past 50 yards, I will give her a try at 75 and then 100 in the next few weeks.
I am going to be doing a little archery hunting for deer this weekend, I may just hoist the ole double up in the tree stand and pop a pig if one stolls by!
Thanks,
EZ
07 October 2009, 05:29
N E 450 No2EZ

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28 October 2009, 19:17
<xs headspace>Hey, Jack! In my book, wiseass is NOT an insult! I've been practicing for years to get it right. After all, you can only be a wiseass to your friends....an enemy will kick yer ass, right? PS I abhor plastic stocks. Although, a little epoxy is often needed hiding inside the lovely wood, in my opinion.