08 March 2007, 11:26
N E 450 No2Kodiak 45/70 double rifle
Champlins shows a deluxe Pedersoli Kodiak 45/70 double rifle for sale.
They usually shoot pretty good.
08 March 2007, 12:07
Hog KillerTony, is it still priced as a Pedersoli or is it nearly = to a Chapuis?
Keith
08 March 2007, 19:50
Charles_Helm KODIAK 45-70 MARK IV DELUXE DOUBLE EXPRESS - MADE in ITALY IN 1996 - 24" Extractor - Rebounding Hammer Toplever - 15" LOP - 10 Lbs. - Appears Unfired$3690? I think that is what they said. I tried to cut/paste but that part got omitted.
Too close to a Chapuis for me unless you want a hammer gun.
08 March 2007, 20:25
El DeguelloThat's a pretty one! I believe DGW is still handling them as well, either .45/70 or 9.3X74R......
quote:
Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
$3690? I think that is what they said. I tried to cut/paste but that part got omitted.
Too close to a Chapuis for me unless you want a hammer gun.
Except that you can rechamber to 450 N° 2 very simply and then you are in another league, pricewise, for a Chapuis or any other double.
09 March 2007, 20:04
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by Wink:
Except that you can rechamber to 450 N° 2 very simply and then you are in another league, pricewise, for a Chapuis or any other double.
Add a new pad for sure and maybe re-regulation (which could be an issue with the way Pedersoli solders the barrels) and you still have a light-for-caliber hammer double for DG.
Not that I haven't considered it!
I have been told that the twist is wrong for the 450 NE rounds, and that the action is not right for a NE round that size, but empirical evidence seems to say that it does work and can work very well. Of course if your rifle blows up do not blame me!
Part of my problem is that I remember not that long ago when you could get one for ~$1500...
10 March 2007, 03:53
Idaho SharpshooterWink,
try calling it the 45-120 with $2 cases and $40 dies and see if it rolls off the tongue any easier...?
Rich
DRSS
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Wink,
try calling it the 45-120 with $2 cases and $40 dies and see if it rolls off the tongue any easier...?
Rich
DRSS
Now there's another option, but I know absolutely nothing about loads and performance for this caliber. Can you use smokeless powder safely at useful velocities?
13 March 2007, 22:16
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by Wink:
Now there's another option, but I know absolutely nothing about loads and performance for this caliber. Can you use smokeless powder safely at useful velocities?
You may have a hard time finding published load data that matches NE velocities. You could call Butch Searcy as he made at least one that was regulated for modern smokeless loads and higher velocities. There is also the .458 RCBS that MacD37 can tell you about (and I think as least one other member has one) that is similar.