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Proper Weight????
29 June 2006, 02:34
BigFiveJackProper Weight????
NOT FOR black powder rifles, but for a:
H&H 375 Flanged Mag NE, 450/400 NE, 500/450 NE, 470 NE, 500 NE, 577 NE and 600 NE Double Rifle;
what should each rifle weigh?
Jack
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29 June 2006, 03:01
400 Nitro ExpressI presume you mean for double rifles?
.375 Flanged Magnum: 9.0 to 9.5 lbs.
.450/.400: 10 lbs. 95% were heavier.
.500/.450 & .470: 10.5 to 10.75 lbs.
.500: 11 lbs.
.577: 13 lbs.
.600: 14 lbs.
It's a mistake to build them too light.
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29 June 2006, 04:59
BigFiveJackYes 400NE, I am asking about DR's. Thank you for your prompt reply! As always, you're THE SOURCE for such.
Jack
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29 June 2006, 05:33
577NitroExpressI'll be shooting a 14 lb .577 NE here shortly. I'll let you know if that is too light or not.
577NitroExpress
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Francotte .470 Nitro Express
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... 29 June 2006, 06:34
dirklawyerJack, The following weights are going to be calibrated for a comfortable shooting gun (I guess that's quite relative, at least my bias opinion) not a weight conscious gun. Less abuse on you and the gun components.
375 Flanged 9 lbs (unscoped)
450/400 10 lbs
500/465 10-10.5 lbs
470 10.5-11 lbs
500 11-11.5 lbs
577 14 lbs
600 14.5-15 lbs
"An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument"
quote:
Jack, The following weights are going to be calibrated for a comfortable shooting gun not a weight conscious gun. Less abuse on you and the gun components.
Make the 500 weigh as much as the 577 and then it will be comfortable enough for me!

Rusty
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30 June 2006, 06:21
BigFiveJackRusty I do recall that you don't feel the need to shoot 500 NE or larger calibered rifles ANYMORE!

Jack
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30 June 2006, 07:40
new_guyquote:
Originally posted by BigFiveJack:
NOT FOR black powder rifles, but for a:
H&H 375 Flanged Mag NE, 450/400 NE, 500/450 NE, 470 NE, 500 NE, 577 NE and 600 NE Double Rifle;
what should each rifle weigh?
I tend to agree with the guidelines given by the others here, but should point out that weights tend to vary. Not only from maker to maker but from client to client. In the double rifle word at large, I think you will find varying answers.
Here are a few examples in the "470 range."
A Perugini & Visini 470 at 9 lbs 7 oz.
An A. Hollis & Son 470 at 11 lbs 12 oz.
An H&H Royal in 470 at 9lbs 11 oz (presumably with scope)
Another H&H Royal at 10 bls 2 oz in 500/465 (practical twin to the 470).
I have actually laid hands on the Hollis 470.
H & H New York had the rifle at the DSC Show.
What a beauty! 26 inch barrels and all! A Leonard action. Too rich for my pocketbook.
Jack, that would most certainly be a correct statement! After I shot the 500 at DRSS hunt, my friend David bought a Merkel 500 3 inch and I got to load and shoot another one!
Yeah I know I've turned into an old recoil wuss!

Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member
"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”