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08 July 2017, 00:04
Colin Masters
Birmingham Double Rifle
http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100879678

I like it for sure, but why the gold bird on the triggerguard ? The price is certainly right... Why would you not take pictures of the proof marks, or any of the other important spots?
08 July 2017, 00:34
skb
You will see gold ducks on all the double rifles that came out of a certain collection here in the States. My friend owned an Army & Navy .577 3" NE with the gold duck. I can not remember if he bought it from Caswell or Thad Scott. The dealer told my friend the collectors name and that all his guns had the duck added. Strange but true.
Steve
08 July 2017, 04:23
Nakihunter
Nice & affordable.

I know some who would want double that asking price & keep dreaming of selling it for the next 10 years!

Very strange that the 2nd photo of the breach end of the barrel says 500 gr bullet! Should it not be 400 gr? Never heard of a 500gr load for a 450/400 NE - 3 or 3.25 inch


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08 July 2017, 05:06
Zephyr
Naki,
If you go to the Vintage Doubles web site http://www.vintagedoubles.com/
And enter 3408 in the search box you will find this 450/400 expand the picture you mention and the number looks like a 400 with a mark under the #4
08 July 2017, 06:04
Aaron Little
That's a beauty.


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08 July 2017, 06:09
470Evans
George Caswell told me the story of this collector. His first name was Bill, can't remember his last name. He apparently was a marketing/branding expert.

I drove up to Enid to buy the 577 Army Navy with the duck on the trigger guard but when I shouldered it decided to pass, it was too heavy for the elephant hunt I was going on. Nice rifle though.


2010 Sapi Elephant Hunt
08 July 2017, 17:47
skb
After shooting that Army and Navy with full boat 750 grain loads none of us felt it was too heavy. Oddly enough, everyone agreed that the Super Magnum paradox gun (750 gr @ 1500 FPS) was even heavier recoiling.
08 July 2017, 18:42
470Evans
Wasn't the recoil, didn't want to lug that heavy of a rifle all day. Decided to use my 470 at 10 3/4 lbs for the elephant hunt.

500grs at 2050 fps through the brain did the trick.

Just remembered, it was Bill Feldstein who had the gold duck engraved on his guns. He was supposedly the guy that had Holland develop the 700 NE.


2010 Sapi Elephant Hunt
10 July 2017, 18:55
Dutch44
470Evans, was that the 16 pund .577 Army and Navy that George had? Was a great looking rifle but monstrously heavy.
10 July 2017, 19:37
470Evans
Dutch,

I remembered it as weighing 14lbs but I could be wrong.

It had the gold duck on the trigger guard and I believe a rather short LOP.

It was/is a very nice rifle.


2010 Sapi Elephant Hunt
10 July 2017, 21:01
skb
14lbs and some change. Yes a very nice gun. Not many true .577 3" guns built for the 750 grain load out there. After shooting it I felt the weight was right for the recoil. I sure would not have wanted that thing to be much lighter. My same friend does own a Rigby single built on the large Webley action in .577 3". That one is under 12 lbs I think. He keeps offering to let me shoot it but I keep declining.
11 July 2017, 02:06
Dutch44
It was heavy, but pretty. It was the full Monty for 100 cordite and 750 as I remember.
11 July 2017, 05:49
skb
Yes the A&N was the Full Monty 750/100 as is my friends Rigby single.