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E H's - Who'd Turn It Down?
15 July 2014, 06:26
D R HunterE H's - Who'd Turn It Down?
Worth a minute...
D/R Hunter
Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal...
15 July 2014, 18:39
subsailor74......worth much more than a minute. That rifle is a piece of history. Thanks for the post.
I think I remember it coming up for auction a couple years back.
Mac
15 July 2014, 21:38
impala#03Mac,
You are correct, it was sold in March 2011 by the same auction house for $340,000.00 I believe J. D. Jones bought it then. I remember Craig Boddington writing an article that referenced that gun not to long ago.
16 July 2014, 01:49
PSmithThe rifle is even better looking in person so to speak. Amazing that any case colors remain.
Safari Classics Productions and Safari Press have the 'Historic Rifles' DVD where you can see the rifle in action on an elephant hunt.
Paul Smith
SCI Life Member
NRA Life Member
DSC Member
Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
DRSS
I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"
"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
Barrels stamped "H L". Could this be a Harry Leonard Rifle? Might be!
Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
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"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
16 July 2014, 21:32
cal pappasThe original question for this post must be answered. "Who'd turn it down?"
The answer is, "Shootaway" (of course) as nothing can compare with his double rifle--the finest of the finest. He turns down all trash and garbage.
Cheers, gents.
Cal
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17 July 2014, 05:00
Use Enough GunOh, Cal!

17 July 2014, 06:44
D R HunterCal,
The subject you mention, (SHOOTAWAY) is excluded as he does
NOT fall under the
Who category, but the
WHAT, as follows:
"HOMO neanderthalensis, (NEANDERTHALS) were discovered
first in Germany's Neander Valley in 1856. They emerged
between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago, give or take, in
the early and middle Paleolithic era, and they used tools,
albeit very simple ones . Often they resorted to using rocks
(or flakes broken off of rocks by hitting them with other rocks),
bones, sticks, and
the cheapest of double rifles. And they
used fire, too! Neanderthals skulls were flatter, with broad noses
and pronounced ridges on the forehead (which is why, to us, they
look rather dim). They were also capable of speech, but recent
physiological discoveries indicate that their voices were high
pitched and nasal, not the baritone grunts we normally associate
with cavemen. Despite their similarities to us, they are not—
repeat, not—a step on the way to us. They are a dead-end off-
shoot of an earlier common ancestor, and they loose out to their
smarter, more advanced cousins: Cro-Magnons."
D/R Hunter
Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal...
17 July 2014, 07:27
safari-lawyerquote:
Originally posted by PSmith:
The rifle is even better looking in person so to speak. Amazing that any case colors remain.
Safari Classics Productions and Safari Press have the 'Historic Rifles' DVD where you can see the rifle in action on an elephant hunt.
Paul, you're being awful coy . . . you've shot the damn thing after all! I would have as well had I not been in Africa.
Will J. Parks, III
17 July 2014, 09:14
NakihunterNice to see the classic Indian heritage of tiger and one horned rhino on the rifle. Made early 1900's ????
One can just drool with heart thumping when looking at even the pictures of such rifles.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
17 July 2014, 19:18
PSmithquote:
Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
[Paul, you're being awful coy . . . you've shot the damn thing after all! I would have as well had I not been in Africa.
Well, it is true, I have indeed fired the rifle. But I don't like to brag...I also try not to mention my date with Kate Upton too much!
Paul Smith
SCI Life Member
NRA Life Member
DSC Member
Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
DRSS
I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"
"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
Paul, your Jeffery double is nothing to sneeze at, either!
PS: The only problem with Kate Upton dates is that when it gets to the good part, you wake up! :-)
18 July 2014, 01:57
PSmithJB, you are so right!
Paul Smith
SCI Life Member
NRA Life Member
DSC Member
Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
DRSS
I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"
"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
My father had opportunity to fire this double, but I just don't remember the circumstances around the hunt. It was back in the fifties or sixties and as many times as he told the story, I only half listened. He passed when I was ten, so now I'll never know.
I remember him saying it was nice, but heavy and way more gun than was needed. I have his double now, an H&H RDG in 475 no 2. Jeff. NE. Rather hear those stories one more time...
Hair, not Air!
Rob Martin
quote:
I have his double now, an H&H RDG in 475 no 2. Jeff. NE.
Wow, very nice! Something to remember him by.
20 July 2014, 05:52
Rockdochhmag that sounds very nice.
RDG - Royal Modele de Luxe?
Cheers, Chris
DRSS
20 July 2014, 09:34
D R Hunterhhmag,
YOU are cordially invited to put up some pictures
of the rifle that has been with your father and now
you, for some number of decades I'll assume...
I am confident it would be worthy of it's own thread!

D/R Hunter
Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal...
I get that rifle out of my mom's safe a few times a year, the next time I grab it I will shoot some decent pics. The inland marine policy on my guns won't cover that one in any shape or form, but my mom still has his policy in effect. Most of his collection is still there, she likes having it around.
There are probably a few of you guys that know the rifle, my dad was Fred Martin, Scotsman who lived in Florida and Rhodesia. He was buddy buddy with EH's brother as my mom tells it.
Hair, not Air!
Rob Martin
quote:
Originally posted by hhmag:
I get that rifle out of my mom's safe a few times a year, the next time I grab it I will shoot some decent pics. The inland marine policy on my guns won't cover that one in any shape or form, but my mom still has his policy in effect. Most of his collection is still there, she likes having it around.
There are probably a few of you guys that know the rifle, my dad was Fred Martin, Scotsman who lived in Florida and Rhodesia. He was buddy buddy with EH's brother as my mom tells it.
Nice!
Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member
"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”