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19 October 2007, 07:06
rowdyredneck
Varmint nightmare bullets
Just wondering what the general opinion is on these bullets from Mid South? Are they as explosive on varmints as the V-max? I know they sell a ton of them and they are hard to keep in stock so I just ordered two boxes of 500 in the new Extreme version for my .223. I got the 50 grain version, but now after comparing the BC rating I kind of wish I had ordered the 55 grain instead since they are slightly higher (.193 BC for the 50 grain). I would love to go out west next year on a prairie dog hunt if I can get my buddy to join me. If nothing else I'm hoping they will work well for exploding water filled cans and jugs. I don't expect long range performance out of them, but I'm hoping they will at least be accurate out to 300 yards.
19 October 2007, 19:30
bartsche
quote:
but I'm hoping they will at least be accurate out to 300 yards.


They are! Both the VNM & the VNMX.That's in a .222, 3ea. .223s & a 22-250. fishingroger


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05 November 2007, 01:33
stepchild 2
Roger,
I just bought 1,000 of the above mentioned bullets, at first I thought they might be Sierra seconds but i'm thinking Seafire might be right as to the Hornady brand. Your thoughts?

Stepchild


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05 November 2007, 04:08
bartsche
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Originally posted by stepchild 2:
Roger,
I just bought 1,000 of the above mentioned bullets, at first I thought they might be Sierra seconds but i'm thinking Seafire might be right as to the Hornady brand. Your thoughts?Stepchild


ConfusedNot even a clue. bewilderedroger


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05 November 2007, 14:41
stepchild 2
I guess it doesn't much matter, just curious. Thanks for the reply.

Stepchild


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09 November 2007, 17:48
seafire2
Was just looking on Mid South's site...

these are listed as "breakdown bullets from major manufacturers"....

so am I to gather that they are pulled bullets from military contract ammo? over runs, rejected lots?

odd description if you ask me..

I know that they are accurate.. but what exactly is a 'breakdown bullet'?


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10 November 2007, 01:29
stepchild 2
seafire,
The bullets that I received are not pull downs, they are brand new.
Odd description indeed. I weighed a half dozen or so and they all were 54.9grs. I haven't shot any yet but they are real nice looking bullets and you sure can't beat the price!

Stepchild


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10 November 2007, 02:31
prof242
From what I've been told by an in-house informant, they are Hornady bullets from manufacturing overruns for cartridge companies. Since there aren't always overruns, there aren't bullets available to sell at the discounted prices.


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10 November 2007, 05:06
Telly
I bought 1,000 of the 50 gr. about mid summer and they appeared to be brand new. Shot less than moa in my CZ.

Telly
10 November 2007, 09:10
seafire2
Well guys like you, I could care less if they were previously seated and were break down bullets as stated, or not..as long as they shoot well...

I just thought it was an odd description...

Telly, shooting well in a CZ is not a good example of bullet quality... CZ's shoot even crappy components exceedingly well!


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10 November 2007, 16:22
N. S. Sherlock
I too have shot lots of these bullets for several years now and have been perfectly satisfied. They sure look like Hornady to me. The "breakdown" part comes in when the high speed production line(I presume) malfunctions, is reset and runs again. Seems reasonable that the"bad" production would be junked to preserve one's quality reputation and the up to par restart production would result in a bit of excess for bulk sales to preserve the "branded" product for 1st class sales. IMHO. ned


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11 November 2007, 20:02
K20350
They sound like when i was at a gun show earlier this year I bough a bunch of .30 cal accubonds and .277 ballistic tips for a song but the packages said "Nosler Factory Seconds" I thought hell they will be cheap target bullets. When I got home i inspected them weighed them and couldnt find a defect. I was informed later that all they are is factory overruns for ammo manufacturers. Something is different on them from noslers "stock" bullet as specified by whichever manufaturer is buying them. So in short nosler can't box them as their spec bullet. The whitetail buck my Brother-in-Law shot the other day with his .270 couldnt seem to tell they were factory seconds when he DRT'd it.
11 November 2007, 21:23
jro45
I use those 55gr HP Serria bullets and they seem to cut the Varmint in half.