224 deer bullet

07 September 2010, 01:34

Bruce Barletta

224 deer bullet

Iam shooting a 22-250 IMP,with a 1-14 twist.. I just had soulder surgery, and must use a small cal. I know this isnt the best deer round,,but iam force to use it till next year.. With the 1-14 twist, I cant shoot the Barnes bullets, either 50 or the 53,s I tried three different powders and seated the Barnes bullets from touching to .080 out with both bullets.. Iam looking for a bullet,around 55 gr. that is sutiable for a large deer, I know shot placement will very important also.. Asking for all sugestions,,,Thanks..

07 September 2010, 02:18

vapodog

Nosler partition 60 grain.

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07 September 2010, 02:27

Bruce Barletta

I have a 1-14 twist,,,,i dont think it would stabilized???

07 September 2010, 03:35

stepchild 2

Bruce,
I am using the same setup as you and I use 55gr.Sierra spitzers #1360. I only take broadside lung shots, turns lungs into liquid!
I'll also take a frontal shot but that's it.

Stepchild

07 September 2010, 03:45

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Barletta:
I have a 1-14 twist,,,,i dont think it would stabilized???

It will!

07 September 2010, 03:47

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by stepchild 2:
Bruce,
I am using the same setup as you and I use 55gr.Sierra spitzers #1360. I only take broadside lung shots, turns lungs into liquid!

Stepchild

I've used the same bullet in the .222 for Texas deer....yup...it did the job for me.

07 September 2010, 10:08

seafire/B17G

besides Barnes...

60 grain Sierra HP and 60 grain Hornady SP

63 grain Sierra and 70 grain Speer SMP..

50 & 55 grain ballistic tip with an MV UNDER 2700 fps..

60 grain V Max with an MV under 2800 fps..

75 and 80 grain Hornady A Maxes if you have the appropriate twist rate..

07 September 2010, 16:31

Lloyd Smale

if your gun will shoot them theres not a better whitetail bullet for the 22s then the 60 grain partition

07 September 2010, 16:37

fgulla

There is also a Trophy bonded bear claw in i think a 55gr weight for 224 but im not sure if its a component or loaded in ammo

07 September 2010, 17:57

Bob in TX

+1 on the 60 gr. Partition & #1360 Sierra. The #1365 Sierra SBT is another option. I personally would not use any of the plastic tipped varmint bullets on a deer.

If the Partition will stabilize in your rifle, use it and don't look back.

Bob

07 September 2010, 18:59

stepchild 2

quote:
Originally posted by fgulla:
There is also a Trophy bonded bear claw in i think a 55gr weight for 224 but im not sure if its a component or loaded in ammo

They're available as a component, got a box here. Manufactured by Speer.
Damn sure pricey though.

Stepchild

07 September 2010, 20:41

perry

Neck and head shoot on large deer and you will be fine.

Perry

07 September 2010, 22:56

Stonecreek

The "black rifle" nuts have gotten everyone all riled up about twist in .22 Centerfires. These guys are shooting 69, 70, and even 80 grain bullets with extraordinarily long noses.

Almost any bullet up to 60 grains does fine in a 1-14" twist, particularly in anything as fast as a 22-250 IMP. That's not to say that the Nosler or other similar bullet will necessarily shoot well in your rifle, just that if it doesn't the problem is unlikely the twist rate.

Other than the Nosler Partition, the 60 grain Hornady has a reputation for holding together fairly well, as does the 64 grain Winchester Power Point.

I loaded the no longer available 60 grain Nosler Solid Base bullets for my 8 year-old grandson's .223 last year, with which he proceeded to drop two bucks in their tracks, each with a single shot.

08 September 2010, 01:59

Bruce Barletta

Well i order the Partitions, 63 gr. Sierra,s and the 55 Sierra,s 1390... Seems like there are some very helpfull people here,,,, Hope one of these combo work,,,Thanks for the info,,,I will keep ya posted...Bruce..

08 September 2010, 02:11

vapodog

quote:
I will keep ya posted...Bruce..

08 September 2010, 02:17

perry

Bruce if you want to experiment with other bullets let me know. I have just about every 224 on the market. I can send you 5 of each to help you find one that works.

Perry

08 September 2010, 02:19

perry

I have had good luck with IMR 4895 and Varget in a few different 22-250's.

Perry

08 September 2010, 03:10

TC1

My two favorites are the Barnes 63gr. TSX and the Nosler Partition 60gr. They both work fantastic on deer. I prefer the Barnes but only because they seem to shoot so well out of about everything I've tried them in.

Terry

08 September 2010, 03:18

Jpat

I thought of using my .223 w/ 60gr Partitions after neck surgery (double fusion). I opted for a 6.5x55 instead. Wish I had found it years earlier.

08 September 2010, 04:45

Donald Nelson

quote:
Originally posted by Jpat:
I thought of using my .223 w/ 60gr Partitions after neck surgery (double fusion). I opted for a 6.5x55 instead. Wish I had found it years earlier.

The 6.5x55 is a great cartridge. I have dies and brass, someday I will have the rifle. My brother has a .260 Rem. and I have killed one deer with it field testing it. It did a very nice job.

08 September 2010, 08:03

Bruce Barletta

Perry,,,Thanks for the offer,,,Iam going to try the three i have listed..If they dont work out,,Ill take you up on the offer.. I here a lot of good reports and loadings with the 4895 also.. Thanks again,,Bruce..

08 September 2010, 08:26

graybird

Bruce,

If you can't get the three bullets you're testing now to work, you might want to look into the Rhino bullets. I haven't shot any yet, but I have some of their 55 grain bullets sit on my bench ready to be sent down range. They have a wide range of weights, too, starting at 40 gr up to 60 gr in 5 grain increments.

I've shot several deer with my 22-250 and 55 grain SP bullets. Stick it in the lungs and there'll be fresh backstraps in the freezer.

Good luck!

10 September 2010, 05:53

Panzerschmied

63 gr. sierra,,and the built for deer/pronghorn Win. 64 gr. in .223,,.22/250,,,horny's # 2265 w/o cannalure 55 grainer,,

10 September 2010, 07:43

bluedot

I've had great accuracy and good performance on deer with the 63 gr sierra smp out of a 14" twist 22-250

10 September 2010, 13:26

seafire/B17G

quote:
Originally posted by bluedot:
I've had great accuracy and good performance on deer with the 63 gr sierra smp out of a 14" twist 22-250

do you load that with Blue Dot??

( oops, I hEAR Hor Core coming!

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10 September 2010, 17:28

Bruce Barletta

I never tried BLUE DOT,,, Just IMR 4350,,,H380 and Varget...

11 September 2010, 01:02

stepchild 2

Bruce,
IMR 4895 is what I use, accurate and fast. There are others that work well but I've been using 4895 in several 22/250's as well as the AI version and see no reason to change.

Stepchild

11 September 2010, 03:49

Jpat

quote:
Originally posted by bluedot:
I've had great accuracy and good performance on deer with the 63 gr sierra smp out of a 14" twist 22-250

The 63gr SMP is a Varmint bullet! I shoot both the 63gr SMP and 65gr Gameking. I'd feel better w/ the Game King although it does state for 1:7..1:10 twist.

11 September 2010, 04:58

bluedot

seafire as a matter of fact I use bluedot loads quite often, starting using them in a 16" contender many years ago after a long conversation with Jim Calhoon, using his 37 gr hollowpoints bullets great accuracy with decent velocity, great loads for 200-300 yd p dogs. Never have understood the people that get all fired up about reduced loads, you can blow yourself with almost any powder if your stupid or careless.

jpat I've found the 63 gr smp to be one of the harder .224 bullets, no its not nearly as tough as the 65 gr btsp sierra but it will shoot very well from a 1/14" twist barrel, the 65 gr will not stabilize in the older slow twist barrels. I have shot many many deer with the 63 gr smp, you slip it into the lungs and it will exit 90% of the time. My 3 daughters killed well over 30 whitetails and mulies with that bullet in my old 788, never lost any deer and only one ever required 2 shots.

11 September 2010, 18:26

Hot Core

quote:
Originally posted by bluedot:
...I use bluedot loads ... Never have understood ...

Seems those two statements always go together.

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Hey Bruce, After you stick a 22cal Bullet in a Deer and track it down in a few hours, how do you plan to Drag it out with a bad shoulder and load it into the truck?

You might want to consider using a real Deer rifle from what you consider your normal Off-Side. I've made a lot of Kills from my Off-Side and the accuracy is surprisingly quite good.

Best of luck to you.

11 September 2010, 21:40

Bruce Barletta

Hot Core,,,,I never had to to shoot a deer more than once,,and never had to track a deer more than 80 yards,,thats including the deer that i have shot with a bow,,which is less lethal than a 22 cal bullet going 3500 fps... Most of my shots are in the neck, or behind the shoulders,,,and i dont shoot at any deer running....

12 September 2010, 03:16

bluedot

bruce as usual hot**** knows not of which he speaks. I have found that those that have never tried a 22 centerfire on deer are those that scream the loudest about it. I have personally been in on well over 100 deer kills with a 22-250, most were shot with 63 gr sierrra smp, some with 55 btsp sierra and some with the 64 gr win pp. All but one were one shot kills, slip a bullet into their lungs on a broadside shot and they will die and seldom will they take more than a step or two.

12 September 2010, 03:59

Hot Core

Hey Bruce, If you go with the Inadequate 22cal decision, you should have plenty of opportunity to hone your Tracking skills.

So you do not plan to drag it out or load it in a truck.

Very interesting! Of course, if you do not locate it, then you won't have to be concerned about either situation.

Best of luck to you.

12 September 2010, 19:41

fgulla

Hey Hot Cork, i smell a huge load of bsflag

hit em in the slats and that deer will die, especially if a good bullet is used ie: Barnes TSX, TBBC, partition, rem core-lokt ultra

13 September 2010, 02:33

Hot Core

Hey fgulla, Me too!!! Fortunately it's NOT in any of my posts.

13 September 2010, 03:31

stepchild 2

quote:
Originally posted by Hot Core:
Hey fgulla, Me too!!! Fortunately it's NOT in any of my posts.

I'm calling BS on that statement! If you only posted about subjects that you at least have some knowledge of, your post count wouldn't be near so high.

Stepchild

13 September 2010, 05:05

bluedot

stepchild his post count is that high because while the rest of us are out shooting/hunting and doing he is sitting at the computer pretending to know something about everything

13 September 2010, 05:24

MickinColo

quote:
Bruce Barletta

Bruce Barletta,

I call BS on your original post. All you wanted to do was stir up some crap. If you can’t nail down a PA whitetail with a 22 LR, WTF is worry with you!?

Pick any bullet you want to shot in your AR (I know you said 22-250 which excludes the AR’s), if it’s good enough for humans, it’ll take down a PA whitetail.

There’s no magic in killing. Just skill with your weapon. The problem is, not everyone has the skill.

13 September 2010, 06:09

Bruce Barletta

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Barletta:
Hey MickinColo.. No stiring up here,,If you would of read my first post,iam sensitive to recoil cause of surgery.. I do 90% of my hunting with a muzzleloader, more sporting than a rifle,,and its illegal to hunt deer in PA. with a 22LR.. Iam going to Kansas, deer hunt, where I might get a longer shot than 200 yards, so i need a rifle. So,, i was asking for some info from some of the more knowledgeable shooters on this form, for a reliable bullet for deer..AND i dont think YOU and HOT CORE fit this criteria.. P.S. you cant use a AR either in PA..

13 September 2010, 06:32

MickinColo

Bruce,

I don't know about you but I've never felt the need to ask anyone on this forum about reloading issues or bullet selection. If Hot Core and I are viewed as the same, I'm sorry you feel that way. Hot Core is his own man, we may think alike about somethings but we are truly different people.