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09 May 2012, 20:37
Ted68
250 Savage or???
The next to last step in rebuilding my rifle collection is building a light deer/coyote rifle. It will slot between my 160 grain 280AI and my 22 WMR.

I am looking for something around 100 grains and easy shooting. I have a bare stainless Remington Model 7 action. I keep coming back to the 250 Savage, but I am not sold on it yet.

Any other sugestions?
09 May 2012, 20:48
loud-n-boomer
You might also consider the Ackley Improved version of the .250 Savage. It equals the .257 Roberts and is on of the most efficient of the Ackley Improved cartridges.


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09 May 2012, 20:58
the jigger
If you build one I don't think you'll be sorry.
I built mine on a Savage 10 action with a 22" barrel. It loves RL15 and 100gr Partitions. I've enjoyed it so much that I have since built two 250AI. All three of these rifles shoot half MOA out to 200yds. The Ackley that I built on a Ruger #3 action has shot minute of prairie dog out past 500yds.
the stock 250 Savage has taken several deer, the longest shot being 130yds or so.
GOOD LUCK and GOOD SHOOTING!!!


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09 May 2012, 23:46
George Semel
A 250-3000 would be just the cartridge for that Model 7 action. put a 23 inch barrel on it. 100 gr Hornaday SP's or 117 gr Hornaday RN's would keep you in venison, and with cellar bullet performance too. I personally would not bother with AI or any of the other wild cat versions. You want more that what a 250-3000 gives, buy a 257 Bob.
10 May 2012, 02:22
Gerry
Ted,

Well - IMO you've already figured it out. Take your Model 7 and screw an 22" or 23" slim-to-medium barrel on it and you'll arrived.

Start with just about any reasonable brand name 100 gr. bullet (or 90 gr. Sierra HPBT GameKing) and it'll shoot real good.

You'll be pleased .....


Cheers,

Number 10
10 May 2012, 02:54
bartsche
tu2IMHO the 250-3000 is a great choice. Mine has a fast enough twist and deep enough throat to facilitate a 120 grain bullet that does not get pushed into the powder room. It does a nice job of stabilizing the lighter bullets as well.
fishingOf course this make up gives you more available cartridge case capacity if wanted.
oldThe 120 grain bullet does a nice job on deer up to the mule deer buck size. No premium bullet needed.
Makes a nice light mountain rifle for sure. waveroger beer


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10 May 2012, 04:33
Cross L
two more cheers for the 250-3000

SSR
10 May 2012, 05:07
Crazyhorseconsulting
No flies on the 250-3000 i think you will enjoy it.


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10 May 2012, 05:40
p dog shooter
The 250 with a fast twist barrel.
10 May 2012, 06:30
ClaMar
Either the .250 or .250 AI is a very good choice, with a light 22-23 inch barrel and a light stock. 2x7, 2.5x8, or 3x9 scope, and it will do anything you need done within 300 yds.

Clarence
10 May 2012, 09:01
tin can
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
The 250 with a fast twist barrel.


What is a fast twist for the 250, and what would be considered a standard twist?

jus' curious.

thx
11 May 2012, 04:51
loud-n-boomer
Were it me, I would use a 1:10 twist barrel. The original Savage 99s had a 1:14 twist barrel. which was too slow to stabilize the bullets heavier than 100 grains. I believe the newer guns by Ruger and Savage use a 1:10 twist barrel.


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11 May 2012, 06:00
Ted68
So my smith is ordering a Krieger 1:10 #3 barrel and will lop it off at 22 inches. I am going to have him set the leade for a Nosler ETip 100 grain.

A humorous aside...I stopped by my smith today to drop off the action. He made me a sweet deal on a 375 Weatherby chambered 700 BDL he acquired. What the heck am I going to hunt with that? There may be a barrel for sale soon....
12 May 2012, 00:35
bartsche
quote:
Originally posted by Ted68:
So my smith is ordering a Krieger 1:10 #3 barrel and will lop it off at 22 inches. I am going to have him set the leade for a Nosler ETip 100 grain.

If you throat it to handle conventional 120 grain cup and core type bullets seated so the base of the bullets are at the throat and neck junction you'll be able to seat the 100 grain bullets close to the same OAL.
oldWith that barrel, proper loading and 120 grain bullet 2750 fps. should be easily obtained at safe pressures. Premium bullts are unnecessary. beerroger


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12 May 2012, 06:57
Ted68
I like that idea, Roger, thanks, tu2
12 May 2012, 07:44
ColeK
Another vote for the 250/3000
12 May 2012, 12:16
BigNate
quote:
Originally posted by loud-n-boomer:
You might also consider the Ackley Improved version of the .250 Savage. It equals the .257 Roberts and is on of the most efficient of the Ackley Improved cartridges.


THIS! I don't think you'll regret it for a second.
12 May 2012, 18:35
tom ga hunter
If you want the speed of a 257 build a 257. I have a M700 classic in 250 Savage, 15 or so years I used it as my sole deer rifle, it did fine including a lucky kill on a doe at 336 measured yds. I was shoothing 117 Hornadys with a max load of H4831 @ 2,550 fps.
12 May 2012, 23:32
bartsche
quote:
Originally posted by tom ga hunter:
I was shoothing 117 Hornadys with a max load of H4831 @ 2,550 fps.

ConfusedThis is interesting and I do not mean to contradict. old This is strictly information. The Lee manual shows a charge of 42 grains of H4831 will drive the 117 grain bullet at 2789 fps.
nilly My results show 120 grain bullets driven by 38 grains of H4831 yield above 2750 fps.with a 24" barrel.My OAL = 2.705" beer roger


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12 May 2012, 23:51
p dog shooter
Roger you know very rifle is of its self.

There is book vel my rifles hardly ever make book.

Some barrels are just faster or slower then others I have a 27 inch 338-06 there is always 200fps slower then very body elses much shorter barrels..

At least of those who post their vel here.

Then there is internet vel that is always faster yet.

Then there is the vel rifles get when some one is trying to sell a rifle the I have a fast barrel you need to buy it vel.
13 May 2012, 20:28
bartsche
WinkPoint well taken,pds. beer roger


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17 May 2012, 13:00
Fasteel
Speaking of loads for your new 250. I have a load with the 110gr Accubond with 37gr of IMR 4350 that is a sweet grouper in my Ruger 77 International 1-10 twist. May work well in you new rifle. FS