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20 August 2003, 05:51
Heritage Arms
6,5x54 MS
Has anyone ever used Superior Ammunition for this calibre? I just picked up a little 6,5 Mqannlicher Schoenauer and want to shoot the 160 grs RN

Aleko
20 August 2003, 06:18
Slingster
Congrats on your "new" M-S in 6.5x54 M-S! I can't tell you about Superior Ammo's offerings, but I've handloaded for my M-S carbine with Hornady's 160-grain RNs with good success.
20 August 2003, 06:31
Heritage Arms
Thanks, I have been stil working on your ammo I have not forgotten. It has a Nickl; scope on it too

Aleko
22 August 2003, 07:17
B17G
Good luck with that Rifle. I am part of the 6.5 mm crowd and also the "older European" Mauser and Schonauer stuff. I hope you post your results on line from this season if you use it.

I was once told about Ruger making their RSI in a 6.5 x 54 once, and have been looking for one every since. ( maybe just have to get one rebarreled?)
23 August 2003, 05:39
Heritage Arms
I have heard this too about the Ruger, I think this is one of those gun myths.

I am in the process of getting the ammo now.

Hope to shoot it next weekend

Aleko
23 August 2003, 20:07
Dave James
Aleko, have not used thiers in that caliber, but have used their's in my 450 Nitro, very nice ammo, in my 6.5x54 I have used the Old west Scrounger and it work very well
23 August 2003, 23:37
carcano91
6,5x54 MS is constantly offered by Hirtenberger, sporadically by RWS, and very rarely by Norma (in the 1990s, they made a run of unprimed brass for the USA, on a wholesaler's order).

Carcano
24 August 2003, 07:20
B17G
Heritage:

I found out where I read about the " Special run" Ruger supposedly did on 6.5 x 54s in the RSI model.

Right out of the Sierra load manual on the cartridge! They have load info for it. Not the most recent addition, the last one before that one.

Of course one can just down load their 6.5 x 55 for the same specs. However, I have seen those Mannlicher in other calibers, and they are a class little rifle. I am envious. Good luck with it.
[Razz] [Roll Eyes] [Cool]
24 August 2003, 09:57
Heritage Arms
We have talked to the folks at Hirtenberger with no avail. The Norma and the RWS stuff is here and there. I have been told you can make them out of 6,5 Carcano. But the folks at Superior say they can do it. The little 6,5 is sure a neat little round.

Aleko
24 August 2003, 10:13
carcano91
quote:
Originally posted by Heritage Arms:
We have talked to the folks at Hirtenberger with no avail.

They are not interested in exporting ?

Carcano
24 August 2003, 10:50
Heritage Arms
When they will answer the phone it is a question they dodge. We have sent several emails to them without any solid responses

Aleko
24 August 2003, 15:18
N E 450 No2
Aleko
I have used Superior Ammo in my 450 No2 and in my 9,3x74R. It is very good stuff. I have met them at the Dallas Safari Show...They are good people, their ammo is top notch. The 6.5x54MS is the ultimate classic calibre. Read "THE RIFLE ITS DEVELOPMENT FOR BIG-GAME HUNTING" by S.R. Truesdell. Anybody who was anybody used it for all manner of game.
26 August 2003, 04:59
Heritage Arms
The gun should be here today I have found some old Norma ammo. I am taking up to my place in Idaho for some shooting.

Tony, when are you comming up to visit?

Aleko
26 August 2003, 06:37
B17G
Heritage:

I do know Old Western Scrounger does carry 6.5 x 54. Also I believe it is Midway that carries some brass made in Australia for discontinued calibers.

Also check out Graf & Sons.com out of Mexico Missouri. I know they are carrying a 268 bore diameter 6.5 bullet made exclusively for them by Hornady. They are also carrying brass for a few different calibers such as the 6.5 Carcano. Contact them, as I am sure they will be expanding the line for other older calibers.
They just need to hear from owners of an interest.

good luck! [Razz] [Roll Eyes] [Cool]
27 August 2003, 10:33
Heritage Arms
The gun is here in my hands can't wait to shoot it. Will keep everyone posted on early results

Aleko
29 August 2003, 07:52
bpesteve
Huntington's still lists 6,5x54 Hirtenberger brass as available at $70/100. See their Hirtenberger web page.
30 August 2003, 09:43
<manhasset>
on a google search of Hirtenberger, it comes up that Century arms sells 6.5x54 MS 160gr. sierra sp. $39.87 bx of 20.
Bob
02 September 2003, 23:33
MLG
Heritage,

Is that a full stock Mannlicher MC or a half stock that you have? If it is a half stock I would be very interested to know what the rear open sight looks like as I am interested in one over here. It does not however have a rear 2 blade folding sight but one with a variable slide rather like a Brno 22 rimfire.

Good luck with it!
03 September 2003, 05:23
Heritage Arms
I shot the little Mannlicher this weekend with some very good results. After a zero at 100 yds with 139 grs Norma ammo, single load only, I shot about an 1 1/2 to 2" group on the range. The accuracy tightend up to about 1 1/2 " at 100. I then went over to the steel plates at 150 yds and 200. When I did my part the plates were dead. I am very pleased with this gun. I will start loading 160 grs rn next weekend. The sights are a fixed blade with another folding leaf. Mine has a scope too, a 4X Nickl with a post.

Aleko
03 September 2003, 07:41
Fritz Kraut
quote:
Originally posted by Heritage Arms:
... Mine has a scope too, a 4X Nickl with a post.

Aleko

Nickel made special 1-4x20 scopes for Mannlicher with smaller ocular diameter. You can�t put another scope in the rings as they to low to allow to lift the bolthandle. Rather nice combination, as you shoot wiht full stock contact despited the old crooked german stock.

Fritz
03 September 2003, 09:23
Slingster
Aleko:
Sounds like that carbine is shooting great. You might get better performance with 160s, but I've been told by knowledgeable collectors that some carbines, for some reason, don't do well with the 160s. What's next, doing a Karamojo Bell and trying for a brain shot with it? [Razz]
03 September 2003, 12:45
Heritage Arms
Actually I wasd thinking about taking this to Mozambique with me next summer

Aleko
03 September 2003, 13:26
N E 450 No2
Aleko
Be sure and have that 6,5 at the store Sept 12 so I can take a look at it. I have soft spot for classic rifles. [Big Grin]
03 September 2003, 13:42
Robgunbuilder
I also have a 6.5X54 MS and got some brass made by Horneber from Huntingtons. It is a nice accurate cartridge and alot of fun in those old Mannlichers.-Rob
03 September 2003, 14:55
Heritage Arms
The gun came with alot of old 6,5 Dominion brass with dies. Any good load recipies for the 160 RN

Aleko