16 February 2005, 21:54
StonecreekFirform load accuracy in a K-Hornet
Conventional wisdom dictates that fireforming loads for improved chambers provide marginal accuracy. Some people even refuse to use fireforming loads for hunting and varminting, prefering to simply shoot them at beer cans, etc.
I was doing some sight checking on my K-Hornet yesterday, and while I knew that the fireform loads were decent, I hadn't realized that they were virtually as good (in terms of accuracy) as the K-loads. I'm using 12 grains of IMR-4227 behind a Sierra 45 grain (not Hornet) bullet for 2650 fps in my fireform load. They print 3/4" higher than my regular load (40 gr BTip @ 3000 fps), but the groups consistently hover near a half-inch for either.
Moral to story: Don't write off your fireforming loads as wasters.
16 February 2005, 22:21
hornetguy2I'm in total agreement.... my fireforming loads always shoot within an inch or so at 100yds... definitely not a waste of powder and primer...
I use AA1680 and a 40gr jacketed HP bullet, and get about 2700-2800fps...
16 February 2005, 22:52
butchlocmine K-hornets all print well when fireforming. but be sure to try lil'gun powder. Give about 200 FPS more than 4227
17 February 2005, 00:32
CossackBesides Lil' Gun, try small (pistol) primers and crimping with a Lee Factory crim die.
17 February 2005, 16:04
deciple-of-keithA faverite of mine in the hornet is 10.3 of H4198 behind a 40gn pill and 11.2 of the same for the "K" with the 40gn. This is AR2207 in auz it almost fills the case.Which gives the best results with these powders
17 February 2005, 20:55
hornetguy2I also use small pistol primers in some of my loads... but I've noticed that in the warmer loads, with Lil Gun (only because this is the one I use with my warm loads)... that my loads start showing "high pressure signs" on the primers.... cratering, even piercing on rare occasions. I switch to small rifle primers, and those signs go away... I have always attributed that to the softer cups in the pistol primers... anybody else had similar experiences?
18 February 2005, 21:24
Stonecreekquote:
Originally posted by hornetguy2:
I also use small pistol primers in some of my loads... but I've noticed that in the warmer loads, with Lil Gun (only because this is the one I use with my warm loads)... that my loads start showing "high pressure signs" on the primers.... cratering, even piercing on rare occasions. I switch to small rifle primers, and those signs go away... I have always attributed that to the softer cups in the pistol primers... anybody else had similar experiences?
Yep, the pistol primers will typically give you craters and piercings at pressures that the "tougher" (thicker cups?, harder alloy?) rifle primers won't. But I think that's an advantage in a Hornet. When you reach the point that pistol primers crater, back off a tad, and your cases will last longer and your gun won't be in any strain. I like to keep my Hornet loads pretty mild in terms of velocity, anyway, since I have numerous larger .22 centerfires when I want or need more velocity.
27 March 2005, 18:20
woodhickhave found the Remington 6 1/2 primer to work great with all my Hornet loads.....
none of the "issues" with SP primers mentioned here....
29 March 2005, 00:04
k-22hornetNever had a problem with small pistol primers in my regular Hornet. My load is 13gr Lilgun under a 45gr bullet. Have you tried small pistol mag primers?