6.5 for Heavy game references

16 April 2012, 08:10

delloro

I read once that the Eskimo would use a .22lr for moose. just pop one in the lungs, and be quiet. the moose would stand there until it died.

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Originally posted by carpetman1:
Eagle 27--Actually moose is the largest North American deer family member. Being bigger they hold more air, but a bullet through their lungs puts them down just like all the rest. They frequently will stand for awhile after being shot and then fall over. 30-06 and even smaller is plenty big, but many try to pass it off you need some sort of magnum. They don't wear kelvar and they don't read the internet as to what it should take.

16 April 2012, 08:12

delloro

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... but why would it be harder to kill and need nothing short of bazookas with super premium bullets in the States when we happily knock them over with anything from the 243 and up usually with standard cup and cores.

the rifling twist and the Coriolis effect.

16 April 2012, 11:49

eagle27

quote:
Originally posted by carpetman1:
Eagle 27--Actually moose is the largest North American deer family member. Being bigger they hold more air, but a bullet through their lungs puts them down just like all the rest. They frequently will stand for awhile after being shot and then fall over. 30-06 and even smaller is plenty big, but many try to pass it off you need some sort of magnum. They don't wear kelvar and they don't read the internet as to what it should take.

Thanks carpetman1, yes I realised moose are the bigger animal but are they a true member of the deer family? I wasn't sure and stand to be corrected if they are. Actually one of the early hunters in NZ I was thinking of when I posted above was a family friend who successfully ventured into Fiordland after wapiti and also had the distinction of being the hunter who shot the last trophy bull moose ever seen in NZ (1952). Only 3 bull moose trophies were ever taken in Fiordland where the first few animals were released in 1910. He shot the moose in the chest at close range with his battered old 303 Long Tom rifle. The animal staggered on its feet and fell over not needing any follow up shots. As a child I clearly remember his moose head hanging on the wall of his families small cottage with the 'bell' hanging down touching your head when sitting below it.

16 April 2012, 13:30

johnfox

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Originally posted by bartsche:
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Originally posted by johnfox:
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How would a 156 grain Norma bullet fired from a well loaded 6.5X55 compare to the ammo my neighbor was using?

I think a Lapua 155gr mega would be a better choice.....

John Fox ,would you care to elaborate? roger

I was just joshin' Roger...

16 April 2012, 19:06

Clem

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Originally posted by mackey:
Why bother using these too small light cartridges on large animals when there are far better rounds available today.
The 6.5x55 is just a throw-back to the beginning of the smokeless era, the Scandinavians dumbed a whole bunch of surplus rifles chambered for this cartridge in the USA and told the American public, 'here boys this is the best round for hunting, sur we hunt moose with it in Scandinavia'.

What about all the game that is wounded and lost with this small round ?

The 30-06 and above are far better to use on big animals.

Joe

I would be willing to bet more game is wounded and lost to poorly placed shots from hard kicking magnums then from lighter cartridges. Shot placement is paramount.

16 April 2012, 20:07

carpetman1

Eagle 27--I'm no biologist, but my dictionary says moose are members of deer family. When I got stationed in Alaska and had my first and only experience with moose, two things surprised me. How good they taste--no wild taste like deer. The other thing was how easily they seemed to be to kill. One well placed shot and deed was done.

18 April 2012, 08:46

carpetman1

Clem are you telling me you can't just hit em anywhere with a magnum? Everyone knows it will kill them and quarter them to boot if done with a magnum. Where you hit em not critical with a magnum.

18 April 2012, 13:29

Hamish

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Originally posted by eagle27:
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Originally posted by carpetman1:
Eagle 27--Actually moose is the largest North American deer family member. Being bigger they hold more air, but a bullet through their lungs puts them down just like all the rest. They frequently will stand for awhile after being shot and then fall over. 30-06 and even smaller is plenty big, but many try to pass it off you need some sort of magnum. They don't wear kelvar and they don't read the internet as to what it should take.

Thanks carpetman1, yes I realised moose are the bigger animal but are they a true member of the deer family? I wasn't sure and stand to be corrected if they are. Actually one of the early hunters in NZ I was thinking of when I posted above was a family friend who successfully ventured into Fiordland after wapiti and also had the distinction of being the hunter who shot the last trophy bull moose ever seen in NZ (1952). Only 3 bull moose trophies were ever taken in Fiordland where the first few animals were released in 1910. He shot the moose in the chest at close range with his battered old 303 Long Tom rifle. The animal staggered on its feet and fell over not needing any follow up shots. As a child I clearly remember his moose head hanging on the wall of his families small cottage with the 'bell' hanging down touching your head when sitting below it.

Gidday Eagle27

Are you a Waipawa boy too growing up with the Herrick family? Are you one of the Eagle boys

Happy Hunting

Hamish

19 April 2012, 11:25

eagle27

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Originally posted by Hamish:
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Originally posted by eagle27:
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Originally posted by carpetman1:
Eagle 27--Actually moose is the largest North American deer family member. Being bigger they hold more air, but a bullet through their lungs puts them down just like all the rest. They frequently will stand for awhile after being shot and then fall over. 30-06 and even smaller is plenty big, but many try to pass it off you need some sort of magnum. They don't wear kelvar and they don't read the internet as to what it should take.

Thanks carpetman1, yes I realised moose are the bigger animal but are they a true member of the deer family? I wasn't sure and stand to be corrected if they are. Actually one of the early hunters in NZ I was thinking of when I posted above was a family friend who successfully ventured into Fiordland after wapiti and also had the distinction of being the hunter who shot the last trophy bull moose ever seen in NZ (1952). Only 3 bull moose trophies were ever taken in Fiordland where the first few animals were released in 1910. He shot the moose in the chest at close range with his battered old 303 Long Tom rifle. The animal staggered on its feet and fell over not needing any follow up shots. As a child I clearly remember his moose head hanging on the wall of his families small cottage with the 'bell' hanging down touching your head when sitting below it.

Gidday Eagle27

Are you a Waipawa boy too growing up with the Herrick family? Are you one of the Eagle boys

Happy Hunting

Hamish

No spent my childhood and early years on the West Coast of the South Island living only a short distance from where Percy Lyes lived and who is credited with knocking over the last trophy moose ever seen in NZ.