M-15A4 accuracy

02 August 2003, 19:31

Rock8296

M-15A4 accuracy

I am looking into buying a M-15A4 special purpose rifle and wanted to know if anybody could tell me what accuracy I could expect from it. Will probably use Wolf 55gr ammo. Any info will be much appreciated.

Rock

03 August 2003, 11:35

shooter65

1-2'' groups.

maybe 3'' with the cheap wolf ammo.

quote:
Originally posted by Rock8296:
I am looking into buying a M-15A4 special purpose rifle and wanted to know if anybody could tell me what accuracy I could expect from it. Will probably use Wolf 55gr ammo. Any info will be much appreciated.

Rock

11 August 2003, 14:47

Big Bore

My M15 A4 (T) has yet to shoot a group over 3/4 inch. However, I have not fed, nor will I feed it any steel cased ammo. Since mine is a target rifle, it will be fed only target ammo. With a 1:9 twist, it likes the match 77 gr. bullets, molly, Black Hills the best so far.

11 August 2003, 15:58

Orion 1

quote:
Originally posted by Rock8296:
I am looking into buying a M-15A4 special purpose rifle and wanted to know if anybody could tell me what accuracy I could expect from it. Will probably use Wolf 55gr ammo. Any info will be much appreciated.

Rock

What exactly is the intended use of this rifle?

12 August 2003, 00:21

Cold Bore

"Accuracy" and "Wolf ammo" don't go together....

12 August 2003, 01:12

arkypete

I'm lost!
What is a M-15?
Jim

12 August 2003, 04:24

eshell

quote:
Originally posted by arkypete:
I'm lost!
What is a M-15?
Jim

The equivalent of an AR-15 without the copyrighted name infringement.

12 August 2003, 04:35

eshell

quote:
Originally posted by Rock8296:
I am looking into buying a M-15A4 special purpose rifle and wanted to know if anybody could tell me what accuracy I could expect from it. Will probably use Wolf 55gr ammo. Any info will be much appreciated.

Rock

I have a Bushmaster M4 and a Colt A1 and both are quite accurate, with decent ammo, which pretty much excludes Wolf. IMHO.

With IMI 62gr SS109 and a cheap scope, the Bushie easily shoots a 1-1/2" group at a hundred, slightly better with commercial varmint ammo. With Wolf 55 or 62, I expect about 4" at the same range, with occasional fliers to 5 or 6".

Others suggest it's functional reliability is lacking, perhaps due to the case lacquer. I have not had function problems, but it IS very dirty, which is bad in a rifle with so many nooks and crannies and a gas port into the receiver.

It is very cheap stuff for a reason. . .

AR-15.Com is a good source for specialized AR-15 / M-16 information. There is an Ammo FAQ, as well as discussion on rifle manufacturers and a wealth of other AR stuff.

12 August 2003, 13:03

Sabot

Federal sells the military ammo they make, and it uses Lake City brass. I get mine from my local gun shop when its available for $4.50 per box of 20. It is desigmated XM193 and has the 55 gr metal case BT bullet. It is VERY hot and quite accurate. In my Bushmaster 20 inch bbl they clock 3334 fps, while the Wolf's do 2990. Even in my 16 inch OLY upper the do 3085 fps.

For 1.5 MOA or better, you only need to sort it by the cannelure position as on, short or long...about 15 seconds per box. Give it a try, and you won't bother with wolf. The brass alone is worth $1-2 a box!

[ 08-12-2003, 04:05: Message edited by: Sabot ]

12 August 2003, 14:45

Orion 1

If accuracy is the goal with factory ammo, why would anyone bother with anything but match grade ammo from Black Hills, Hornady, or Federal?

I keep hearing guys talk about American Eagle this, South African that, bla bla bla. When someone starts winning high power matches with that stuff on a regular basis, I'll listen. Otherwise, ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

16 August 2003, 04:31

Orion 1

Is there a point to this post?

16 August 2003, 05:01

Dave R

Rock, I shoot a lot of Wolf in my .223 SAR-3 (AK equiv) and I agree with the other posters that it is the least accurate .223 around.

I get much better results at a relatively bargain price with PMP "Gazelle" ammo which is brass-cased and reloadable.

Depending on how the chamber of your AR is cut, it may not feed Wolf reliably. The guys at AR-15.com have very mixed results. Some say its fine, some have lots of stuck cases. The current theory is wolf is a little generous in their case dimensions, and it too big for a tight chamber.