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21 February 2006, 22:21
JTK
243 bullet
Hey,
I just bought some 243 bullets. They are in a older package from Hornady. They are 80 grain bullets. The bullet number is 2435. On the package, there is written "Single Shot Pistol". DO they operate fine with 243 win. speed? Anybody has experience with this bullet?

JTK.
21 February 2006, 22:55
Allan DeGroot
quote:
Originally posted by JTK:
Hey,
I just bought some 243 bullets. They are in a older package from Hornady. They are 80 grain bullets. The bullet number is 2435. On the package, there is written "Single Shot Pistol". DO they operate fine with 243 win. speed? Anybody has experience with this bullet?

JTK.


the "single shot pistol" bullets are made with thinner jackets so they'll still "blow up"
when fired from the typical 12-14" TC barrel

Think of them as "super Explosive" varmint bullets.

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21 February 2006, 23:19
Bobby Tomek
Allan DeGroot wrote:
quote:
the "single shot pistol" bullets are made with thinner jackets so they'll still "blow up"
when fired from the typical 12-14" TC barrel



Allan-You are completely wrong on this one. Yes, they have thinner jackets, but they are not made to "blow up" at pistol velocities. Much the opposite is true.

They are made to expand adequately and penetrate sufficiently on game at the reduced velocities common to such rounds as the 6mm-.223, 6 BR, 6 JDJ, etc.

They perform best on medium-sized game such as pronghorn and small whitetail. From a rifle such as a .243 WCF, etc., they're best used for varmints as you'd be operating at velocities outside the optimal range of the bullet's performance window unless you slow things down a bit. But if you keep the muzzle velocity below 3000 fps, they'll do fine on deer-sized game in your .243 as long as the ranges are reasonable and the shot placement good.


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22 February 2006, 00:58
Fjold
The old 50 grain SSP .224 bullets said right on the packaging that they were not to be used over 2500 fps at the muzzle. Pushed to 3700 fps they would explode on cardboard backers.


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22 February 2006, 02:28
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by JTK:
Hey,
I just bought some 243 bullets. They are in a older package from Hornady. They are 80 grain bullets. The bullet number is 2435. On the package, there is written "Single Shot Pistol". DO they operate fine with 243 win. speed? Anybody has experience with this bullet?

JTK.


My Hornady manual shows that bullet loaded to 3,300'/sec. Further there is no warning about reducing velocity. Yes...the SSP stands for single shot pistol and might indeed be of thinner jacket material but the manual still show's it loaded very fast.

Load em up and see what happens. You have a 1-10" twist I assume....faster twists might be harder on them.

I'd agree that it's a varminting only proposition.


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22 February 2006, 04:48
Bobby Tomek
Fjold-

Hornady NEVER made a 50 grain SSP bullet or any SSP in .22 caliber, for that matter. You are thinking of the SX, which stood for super explosive. And there was NO warning for use over 2500 fps; 3300-3400 was the number Hornady warned shooters about.

Where are you and Allan getting your information from, might I ask? It is waaay off base.


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22 February 2006, 05:51
Fjold
quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
Fjold-

Hornady NEVER made a 50 grain SSP bullet or any SSP in .22 caliber, for that matter. You are thinking of the SX, which stood for super explosive. And there was NO warning for use over 2500 fps; 3300-3400 was the number Hornady warned shooters about.

Where are you and Allan getting your information from, might I ask? It is waaay off base.


You're right, I found an article in the 1980 IHMSA reloading guide about the "new" Hornady SSP bullets and the limit was in the 3200-3400 fps range. I don't know where I got 2500 fps at. killpc

My reloading records for the 6mm SSP bullets have a note in them about blowing up target backers though I have a 75 grain weight listed. Was there a 75 grain SSP made?


Frank



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22 February 2006, 08:57
Bobby Tomek
There was no 75 grain SSP. Hornady did make a 6mm, 80 grain SSP. The only others offered by Hornady were the 7mm version (#2811/spitzer and #22811/tipped, both in 120 grain format) and a .30 caliber SSP.

You may be thinking of the 6mm, 70 grain SX bullet, a projectile that I still favor as it exhibits extreme accuracy and is quite fragile. You'd have to push the 75 grain HP quite fast to get "blow-up" on the target backing as it's a bit stouter.


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23 February 2006, 02:07
JTK
THanks for answers. I have loaded them with Norma 204 44-46 grains powder. Looking forward to see whats happening. On the buttom of the package I found that there is written Interlokt. That makes med presume its not super thin jacket on these bullets.

JTK