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Herter's .244??

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16 April 2004, 02:00
Marterius
Herter's .244??
I posted a question about this on the cartridge collecting forum, but I would like to as you as well: I have an empty case stamped Herter's (upper headstamp) and 244 (lower headstamp), found in a bag of mixed brass. I thought it was a .244 Rem - 6 mm Rem - but this case is 55 mm long (2.163 in) and hence shorter then the 6 mm Rem. Only the neck is shorter as far as can understand - the rest of the case seems to be just like the .244 Rem and the calibre is .244. Do you have any idea of what it might be? A Herter's own .244, an odd attempt to make a wildcat or just some guy who was a bit to hot on the trimmer!?

Regards,
Martin
22 April 2004, 10:23
<eldeguello>
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just some guy who was a bit to hot on the trimmer!?



I suspect it is this! Herters!! Even though they did have a few propietary attempts at cartridges, I don't think a .244 was in this group!
08 May 2004, 10:22
tdobesh
I think I'd second eldeguello's thoughts. I have some of that brass of which you speak NIB back at my parents so I can't just throw a set of calipers on it just now, but if I'm ever back home and think of it I'll check it out. If it weren't messed up it should be GOOD brass! I've heard from a couple of sources that herter's brass/ammo was made for them by NORMA!!!
08 May 2004, 16:37
captnemo
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... herter's brass/ammo was made for them by NORMA!!!



At least some of Herters' ammo was made by Svensk Metalverken----which eventually was bought by the NORMA group.

the_captn
11 May 2004, 08:44
B17G
If the case is 55 mm long, and you are in Sweden, a couple of things strike me.

It could be that it is brass that someone at herters was going to market the 243 Rockchucker over in Europe. ( 243 with a longer neck, to 55 mms instead of 51mms)

My second guess which I would be more likely to think, since you are in Sweden is that it is a 6.5 x 55 necked down in some form to 6mm. And the idea never really sat the market on fire, and was dropped.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire
11 May 2004, 09:03
<eldeguello>
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If the case is 55 mm long, and you are in Sweden, a couple of things strike me. It could be that it is brass that someone at herters was going to market the 243 Rockchucker over in Europe. ( 243 with a longer neck, to 55 mms instead of 51mms) My second guess which I would be more likely to think, since you are in Sweden is that it is a 6.5 x 55 necked down in some form to 6mm. And the idea never really sat the market on fire, and was dropped.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire



It COULD be this, but if I remember correctly, a case lengthens as it is necked down, so if you necked a new 6.5X55 case to 6mm, it would no longer be 55mm long....
11 May 2004, 20:33
B17G
Thanks Eldeguello,

just my 2 cents spectulation in a 10 cent world,! LoL

cheers
seafire
13 May 2004, 04:27
<eldeguello>
I agree! ALL liberals ARE fools!!