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Shortening shoulder length

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20 June 2003, 13:54
Sundowner
Shortening shoulder length
How hard is it to push the shoulders back on a case to shorten the body of the case, say 1/8 - 1/4 of an inch?
How do you go about accomplishing this?

Regards
Sundowner
30 June 2003, 00:55
<eldeguello>
Not hard at all!! I just made some 7.65X53mm Argentine cases from commercial .30/'06 brass by just running them through a 7.65mm full-length die, and trimmining them to 53mm! One pass, then trim. No problem at all, but getting the lube amount just right can be a challenge. You need enough to prevent a stuck case, but not enough to cause dents in the brass.
02 July 2003, 10:36
Brent Moffitt
eldeguello,
How much does that move the body/shoulder junction length back? I'm not familiar with the 7.65X53. Does it change the shoulder angle on that one too?
07 July 2003, 04:09
<eldeguello>
The shoulder angles are similar, but not exactly the same. The setback of the shoulder is at least 1/4" or so. Quite a change. the 7.65X53 is a lot like the .308, but 2 silly millimeters longer! Slightly smaller shoulder diameter than the .308!
07 July 2003, 14:45
Wildcat Crazy
Do not lube above where the new shoulder will be and you will not have to worry about dents.

When forming brass I remove the decapping stem.
If you then stick a case ,it is a simple matter to punch the case out.If the shoulder is moved back enough,it will be necessary to ream the neck,
I do so before the case is removed from the die.

I have one wildcat,where the neck is set back .700",no problems.

WC
08 July 2003, 04:17
<eldeguello>
Right, #Wildcat! Definitely remove the decapping stem! [Wink]