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08 November 2003, 02:26
Trautman
6,5x55 swedish improve differences
anyone know differece between
6.5x55 BJAI
6.5x55 Arch
6,5x55 ackley
exist also other?

thanx
08 November 2003, 19:34
dantec
6.5x55 BJAI = optimized for accuracy purpose the 6.5x55 AI ( 40� shoulder ); that a Bill JORDAN design

6.5 Arch short neck long body with 44� shoulder

6.5x55 AI regular AI design on BROAD military chamber with DEEP throat , not really the best

you can find too :
6.5/284 shoulder and neck with body downsize match for 6.5x55 base
that allow to use 6.5/284 die for loading and make a very nice IMP design with 35� shoulder .
6.5 ROGUE with 37� shoulder , PPG design with tight match dims

6.5 BR extra long wich is a6.5 BR reamer run deep to the 6.5x55 lenght ( 30� shoulder )

for all 6.5x55 check the chamber dims and throat location , original CIP , SAAMI are far too broad for accurate target shooting

good shooting

DAN TEC

[ 11-08-2003, 19:07: Message edited by: dantec ]
09 November 2003, 01:40
Trautman
idont find nothing about it 6.5x55 BJAI (bill jordan design) where i can find reamer?
09 November 2003, 03:27
Mauserkid
Clymer Manufacturing producing tools for Gunsmiths with Reamers, Precision tools, Cutting tools for Gunsmith's and Gunsmith Tools. Gunsmith Tools for Rifles, Pistols, Shotguns, with Reamers, Headspacing Gauges for Precision Tools by Gunsmith's.
Gun Type: RifleReamer Type: Ackley Improved RimlessCaliber: 6.5x55 BJ Ack. Imp.
A 0.4370 Shank
C 0.4780 Base Diameter
D 0.4650 Shoulder Diameter
E 0.2980 Neck-1
F 0.2980 Neck-2/Case Mouth
G 0.2650 Freebore Diameter
H 0.2560 Pilot Diameter
K 2.1770 Min. Chamber Length/Base-to-Case Mouth
L 1.26260 Base-to-Shoulder
M 0.3270 Neck Length
N 0.1000 Freebore Length
O 0.1260 Rim/Belt Thickness
Q 40 Degree Shoulder Angle
R 1 Deg 30' Throat
If you would like a quote on a similar customized chambering reamer you can change the dimensions of the above reamer to suit your needs, fill in the following contact information, and submit your request by clicking on the [Add to Shopping Cart] button below.
[Welcome] [Price List][Wildcat Specials] [Headspace Gauges] [Reamer Design][Request Information] [Ordering & Shipping] [News] [Resources] 1645 West Hamlin Rd., Rochester Hills, MI 48309 Toll-Free Phone: (877)REAMERSLocal Phone: (248)853-5555 Fax: (248)853-1530http://www.clymertool.com E-mail:clymer@clymertool.com � 1997 Clymer Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved.

I copied the info for you.....
09 November 2003, 04:07
dantec
forget Clymer except for hunting purpose best is to use PPG or DAVE MANSON .

good shooting

DAN TEC
09 November 2003, 07:13
Mauserkid
I have never used clymer my self, I like there web page.

What are your reasons for likes, and dislikes....

What things should we know?

THanks....
09 November 2003, 20:26
dantec
When you plan to put money in a reamer the goal is to get the best at the final so Clymer ahve somtime ( too many time ) quality problem , reamer not really sharps , flutte not cut the same ... that perhaps OK for hunting chambering but when you plan to chamber a $$$$$ match barrel best is to SURE of the reamer .

I use PPG ( Dave Kiff ) Dave Manson and JGS ( JGS only for hunting rifle as regular SAAMI or CIP chambering ) but in all the case I recheck the reamers before to use them and quality of PPG and Manson are GREAT and both are real custommaker .

Enjoy quality

good shooting

DAN TEC
09 November 2003, 22:48
HondoJohn6508
Mauserkid, et al,

Just a slight correction to one of the above posts, its 'Bob' not Bill Jordan who designed the BJAI reamer. Bob is a staff writer with "Precision Shooting" magazine. When Bob was designing the BJAI he worked with Dave Manson who was at that time employed by Clymer Reamers. When the Clymer family sold the business, Dave went on his own in the manufacture of high quality reamers.
I certainly agree with Dantec that Dave Manson and Dave Kiff are both fine gentlemen and most knowledgeable in their field of endeavor. I have worked with both in designing wildcat cartridges and have been most pleased with their service and product. Their reamers cut thru CM and SS like a hot knife thru butter. I have not used the other reamer manufacturers so I can't comment one way or another.

Best regards,

Ol' John
10 November 2003, 04:02
Mauserkid
Good eye Hondo,, Did not even see that Bill, Bob mistake..

To much fun....
10 November 2003, 07:45
Trautman
but with 6.5x55 BJAI = optimized for accuracy purpose the 6.5x55 AI ( 40� shoulder ); that a Bill JORDAN design i must turn neck? or i reach normally to close bolt?
10 November 2003, 13:38
Mauserkid
Bob Jourdan not Bill... Second What is your question? Maybe it is me, but I do not understand the question.

quote:
but with 6.5x55 BJAI = optimized for accuracy purpose the 6.5x55 AI ( 40� shoulder ); that a Bill JORDAN design i must turn neck? or i reach normally to close bolt?
40deg. shoulder allows for a lot of things.
Decrees brass flow; optimize accuracy, increased pressure, and lets not forget the cool factor.
Turning necks will depend on brass thickness, and chamber (neck) dimensions.

Does this help?

[ 11-10-2003, 04:39: Message edited by: Mauserkid ]
11 November 2003, 01:21
Trautman
"Turning necks will depend on brass thickness, and chamber (neck) dimensions."

Ok my question is 6,5x55 BJAI have match design?
reamer for this catridge is just match? of consequence i must turn neck ?
11 November 2003, 05:07
dan belisle
I believe you can specify the neck dimensions you want when you order the reamer. I would listen to the advice of the reamer maker though, as he's probably heard about any problems you might run into already. FWIW - Dan
11 November 2003, 09:28
Mauserkid
I do not have to turn necks on my 6.5x55BJAI. It is a standard neck dia. If you want a match grade reamer, and want to turn necks, etc. you will need to call a reamer manufacurer directly.

Again, I do not need to turn necks on any of my brass. I rented the reamer from 4-D when I built this rifle.

Way to much fun....
11 November 2003, 20:08
dantec
neck diameter is not THE main factor in a chamber specialy in 6.5x55 check first base diameter to AVOID the very broad original 6.5x55 design ( machine gun use ) and th ethroat wich is very deeeeeeeeeep and throat must match with the bullet you plan to use

a neck turn chambering with a body chamber big as a pregnant cow and a throat deep as pit really not help

best on 6.5x55 i sto go with 0.297 neck that make no neck turning but tighter than th e regular 0.300

don t forget too that only European case hold the good case base dia , US made brand are close to the 06 family

good shooting

DAN TEC
12 November 2003, 04:17
Mauserkid
Good info Dan..

I think it still may be in the archives. At one time, I asked other members to measure the cases just to see who manufacture the closest correct tolerances. I was surprised to see that the US manufactures did not come close.
I finally settled with PMC.. Not the perfect dimensions, but I got such a great deal on bulk I couldn�t pass...