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Re: .17 rimfire wildcats

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20 October 2004, 14:44
Con
Re: .17 rimfire wildcats
From Australia, Arthur Langsford (Myra Sports Store) in the 70's produced the .17 Minor Mite, .17 Vixen and .17 Tini Mite. Can't remember exactly which were which, but base cases were primed .22 ratshot cases (.17MM, .17TM) and I believe the 22 magnum case (.17 Vixen). Also was the .17 Extruder, that fired a .22 rimfire in a swage barrel to .17. Arthur (I believe) spoke to Ruger regarding chambering the .17 Extruder in the 10/22 and 77/22, but nothing came of it
Cheers...
Con
20 October 2004, 15:00
captnemo
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Just wondering if anyone knows the names of all the .17 rimfires...



Barber, in his book on rimfires in the US and Canada, lists the 17-3000 MYRA (Vixen) [Myra was (is?) an Australian sports dealer]; the 17 Hi-Standard [on a 22 long rifle case]; and the 17 Hi-Standard Long [appears to be on a 22 XL case].

The 17 Hi-Standard has become (possibly modified) the 17 Aguila; I have a headstamp of bold A (by Aguila).

The 17 HMR is recent; I have headstamps of bold H (by Hornady), bold C (by CCI), and bold R (by Remington).

The 17 Mach 2 is recent; I have headstamps of bold H (by Hornady) and bold C (by CCI). Eley also makes the Mach 2--it has the shoulder in a different location than in the Hornady/CCI cases.

Bill Eichelberger has necked the 22 lr rf case to several calibres including 17. Do a search here for "Extreme Small Caliber" (Jim Saubier, March of 2003). His appears to have a longer neck than the Hi-Standard one.

Do you know of others?

the_captn
20 October 2004, 15:03
captnemo
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... produced the .17 Minor Mite, .17 Vixen and .17 Tini Mite....



Con

Thanks for the added Myra rimfires; I'll update my copy of Barber's book.

the_captn
21 October 2004, 05:51
Cheechako
Captn

Ive been trying to get a web site or e mail address for Bill Eichelberger. Do you know of either?

Also, tried the search you suggested (Extreme Small Caliber in Wildcats Forum) and got negative answer. I would like to read this thread. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Ray
21 October 2004, 06:34
Paul H
Do a search of the small bore forum.
07 November 2004, 15:31
Godsdog
captnemo,
I have some 17 HMR cases with the Federal Headstamp from about 1990 from my Squirrel shooting friend Gene Harwood (now deceased) who designed the 17 Mag. Rimfire, had a reamer cut for it and reloading tools built for it and Steve Chernicky built the first rifle for it on a Marlin 22 Mag Bolt action rifle. The first loads were with 18, 22, & 25 gr. bullets made by Gene and they had a muzzle velocity of just over 3000 fps. They tried to get Federal Cartridge to go Commercial with the round but they wouldn't do it. I killed Coyotes with those rounds out to 300 yds with one shot hits. It was a fur takers dream cartridge. A bit light for Yotes at the 300 yd. range though.Godsdog.