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Why did the 6.5/06 never make it?
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I know that there is a lot of redundancy in several of today's calibres but this what we enjoy so I say go ahead + reinvent the wheel if it suits you. I know that I have done it myself many times over the years on wildcats. I know it's serious, but it's also our hobby. Big Grin


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Posts: 14901 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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Just bought one on a remodeled Winchester 1917 action. No idea what reamer was used so will heat up the Cerrosafe and see what I have.


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I'll be interested to hear what you think of this new rifle/cartridge Bill.
 
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The .256 Newton is a 6.5-06. Maybe that has something to do with it.


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Posts: 3586 | Location: Eastern Slope, Colorado, USA | Registered: 01 March 2001Reply With Quote
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As I said, redundancy. the .256 Newton never was factory chambered or ammo mfg. to the best of my knowledge but a few years ago there was 6.5/06 head stamped brass available. Maybe still is.


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Posts: 14901 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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Simple- Hornady marketing team never got ahold of it.

They made the 250-3000 the awe inspiring 25 creedmoor
22-250 morphed into the 22 creedmoor

But the lowly 6.5/06 just never got no love. Never written about or marketed. It’s what the current crop of 6.5s wish they could be.
 
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The .256 Newton was manufactured commercially by Western Cartridge from about 1921 to 1939. Remington briefly manufactured it from 1916 to 1921, from what I can find.
The .256 was chambered in Newton's rifle line.
https://revivaler.com/newton-rifle-256-newton/


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Posts: 14087 | Location: Alamogordo, NM | Registered: 03 June 2000Reply With Quote
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Back when I was in University of Wyoming (1978) I heard of a couple guys shooting 6.5-06 rifles. I had a 7mm Express in a Rem 700 which I loved. I picked up a R700 in 25-06 for antelope but had always kept the 6.5 in the back of my mind.

Couple years ago I saw a guy was selling a Cooper Excalibur 6.5-06 with Redding dies so I traded for it. 26" fluted barrel to boot. It shoots 130gr Sierra TGK bullets at .75". I haven't hunted with it yet but I think that will change soon on an upcoming hunt in March.


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Posts: 769 | Location: Idaho/Wyoming/South Dakota | Registered: 08 February 2006Reply With Quote
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I'll be very interested in following this development Saeed!


I found one of our 6.5-06 Improved.

I am running a batch of 277 caliber bullets through our CNC lathe right now.

As soon as I am done I will run some 264 caliber and try it.


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Thanks for the info Saeed!
 
Posts: 2157 | Location: Colorado | Registered: 26 May 2010Reply With Quote
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Back in the day, I was for a period of time a sho nuff wildcatter..As to the 6.5/06 I built one and shot some mule deer with it, then punched it out to a Ackley, and later a Gibbs...bottom line is I had a very expensive .270 Win or 280 Rem as far as a hunting rifle goes...Like most all wildcats, they are fun and games, but expensive in the long run, and duplicate some factory rifle caliber.... sofa


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Posts: 38055 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I recall Bob Jourdan wrote what I considered an excellent article in Precision Shooting on the.260 Remington a little after it came out. It ended up being less about the .260 than 6.5's in general. Seems he was a real fan of the 6.5mm and the .256 Newton in particular, considering it the best compromise of the 6.5's with the 6.5-06 (which was popular) a bit overbore, the AI version a barrel burner and the those with less capacity than the 6.5X55 a bit lacking. He had mentioned that the .270 was developed during the hayday of the Newton and just barely bested it on paper, using more powder. I believe he went on to build a Newton on a Sako action and was pleased with it. He also worked with the AI version of the 6.5X55, which Ackley apparently did not do. I had intentions of building a .256 Newton on a 1909 Argentine action but decided on 7X57 in the end. I had not nearly the success with cast bullets in the 6.5X55 as in the 7X57 and don't shoot many jacketed bullets compared to cast.


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Posts: 39 | Location: Maryland | Registered: 11 January 2003Reply With Quote
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I always thought the 6.5/06 suffered from the same issues the .264 had back when- it was a natural rebarrel/sporterization round that had the problem of being overbore in the days before we had wholesale availability of slow powders. Also, 6.5 bullets were not what they are now.

Thus, it was either a mostly empty case with little ballistic advantage or a very high pressure barrel eater.

Nowdays, I’d think it would be a great light magnum, but everyone wants either short action efficient rounds or maximum performance bragging rights.

Right now, it seems no one wants something in the middle if you look at popular media.

I think it’s a much better option for a bigger 6.5 as far as hunting than the .264 WM on up, but it’s not going to compete in the short action minimal recoil group.

Since it has been around for years, there is no money to be made by a maker adopting it and marketing it.
 
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Those of you who reload for the 6.5-06 are you able to neck down 30-06 in one step? Do you need to neck turn the brass. I've thought about a 6.5-06 for quite a while. Being able to use 30-06 brass and making it in a simple process is what will push me one way or another.

If I have to use .270 or .25-06 brass I wouldn't be as interested because I don't have piles of that stuff.


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Those of you who reload for the 6.5-06 are you able to neck down 30-06 in one step? Do you need to neck turn the brass. I've thought about a 6.5-06 for quite a while. Being able to use 30-06 brass and making it in a simple process is what will push me one way or another.

If I have to use .270 or .25-06 brass I wouldn't be as interested because I don't have piles of that stuff.


I had a Brno with a Douglas Supreme barrel in 6.5-06 for a while. Had been spruced up with very nicely finish wood, after market recoil pad etc. An acquaintance had used a 6.5-06 for decades and swore by it. I could get 3000fps with the Sierra 140gr SPT bullet but could get within 100fps of that with a shorter barreled short action 7mm-08.

I used 25-06 cases, seating bullets straight into new cases, and also 30-06 cases necked down without any neck turning required.

If I wanted more than the 7mm-08 could give I would go the 7mm Magnum way with a 160gr bullet at 3000fps (used a 7x61 S&H for decades). Just couldn't really see a purpose for the 6.5-06, didn't do anything that the 7mm-08 accomplished quite well without fuss and could never match the 7mm Magnum.
 
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Bob, you can resize the 06 brass in one stroke. Be generous with lube on the neck but not so much on the shoulder. Best bet is if you have a Hornady 6.5 neck die.


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Posts: 14901 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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6.5x65 RWS is still active in Europe. But it isn't popular there either.
 
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I'm still enamoured with the 6.5X54 M/S but then I'm a dinosaur.


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Posts: 14901 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 11 March 2013Reply With Quote
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I have a 6.5/06 AI. The requirement for neck turning will depend on the rifle. Mine with 30/06 Lapua brass needs the necks turned to get the proper neck tension / clearance.
 
Posts: 195 | Location: North Alabama | Registered: 13 January 2006Reply With Quote
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Too close to a .270 Winchester to matter? Maybe the name 6.5 A-square was not flashy enough? Would a 6.5 Winchester have gotten more notoriety and attention?


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Posts: 4196 | Location: Near Hershey PA | Registered: 12 October 2012Reply With Quote
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the 6.5 has always had a mystique about it from its days in Africa where it slew many elephant etc and got a few Englishmen ate..It does have penetration as do a dozen other calibers..I shot both the 6.5/06 in various forms and the .270 in std form and preferred the 270 and 7x57 hands down, on deer and elk.

In fact was sorely disapointed in the 6.5x57 and the 6.5x06..but thats a decision each person has to make for himself.. I found the 6.5 Manlicher shonauer an awesome little gun, but the caliber again didn't impress me, other than it worked on deer, but so do many other caliber

Anyway thats my assessment to your original post, right or wrong and its certainly argueable.


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