26 January 2013, 21:32
gordief9.5 MS w/ Cordite
i would like to duplicate this cartridge:
9.5 x 57mm w/ a 270gr. bullet & CORDITE "powder".
anybody know what the MV would be out of a 20in. bbl?
the original rifle is gone, but i would like
to experience what granddaddy did.
26 January 2013, 22:02
ramrod340Have no clue what the Cordite load was. Max pressure is listed as 44,000. Loaded to that pressure in a 20" barrel should give you 2100FPS maybe a touch more with a 270gr.
27 January 2013, 03:19
SR4759Try registering and asking your question at nitroexpress.com.
IMR 3031 is often recommended as the best substitute for cordite but NOT ON A GRAIN PER GRAIN BASIS.
27 January 2013, 04:07
ramrod340quote:
IMR 3031 is often recommended as the best substitute for cordite but NOT ON A GRAIN PER GRAIN BASIS.

Do a search on the net for the 9.5X57 and you will often see 3031 mentioned
27 January 2013, 15:53
45-70 shooterFrom a search on the Web:
"Cartridges of the World loads
270gr bullet, 44 grains of 3031, 2150 MV, 2780 ME.
286gr bullet, 42 grains of 3031, 2040 MV, 2638 ME.
Also known in Britain as the 375 Nitro Express Rimless.
load for the 9.5x57M-Sch and the 235gr. Speer bullet: case formed from W-W .30-06, primer S&B standard lr, powder 57gr VV N140 (burning range about like 4320 or R15), full capacity load, slowly poured in through a 6" drop tube. I got an instrumental velocity of 2360 fps from the 20" barrel of my M1910 without any signs of high pressure.
Here is what I have collected from the MCA newsletters:
IMR3031 powder
285gr RN-SP bullet -- 42.0gr -- 2,040 fps
270gr RN-SP bullet -- 44.0gr -- 2,150 fps
270gr RN-SP bullet -- 45.0gr -- 2,250 fps
235gr Spire Point -- 43.5gr 2,200 fps
235gr Spire Point -- 47.5gr -- 2,400 fps
IMR4895 powder
285gr RN-SP bullet -- 43.5gr -- 2,150 fps
270gr RN-SP bullet -- 47.5gr -- 2,250 fps
235gr Spire Point -- 49.5gr -- 2,400 fps
Miscellaneous powders
270gr RN-SP bullet -- 46.0gr IMR4064 -- 2,150 fps
270gr RN bullet -- 43.0gr Cordite -- N/A
270gr RN bullet -- 46.0gr Norma N201 -- 2,250fps
270gr RN bullet -- 51.0gr Reloder 15 -- N/A
Reloads based on my own tests:
IMR4064 powder
270gr RN-SP Hornady -- 46.0gr -- 2,090fps
270gr RN-SP Hornady -- 48.0gr -- 2,160fps "
27 January 2013, 23:33
gordiefa big thank-you for everybody's responce...
i found alittle info at reloader's nest...
45-70 shooter's data will be a great reference.
28 January 2013, 01:26
D HumbargerAlso known as the 375x444 or 375 JDJ. I pissed J.D. off once telling him that after he became so damn rude.

04 February 2013, 10:42
Norman ConquestYou might check John Taylor's "African Rifles + Cartridges". I read it years ago + he does give cordite loadings for some cartridges although he had no respect for this caliber.I have to agree. It was a fun rifle to shoot but somewhat anemic.