.416 cartridge based off the Lott

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24 September 2003, 04:50

Dago Red

.416 cartridge based off the Lott

We all know of the famous 416 taylor wildcat, necked down from .458winmag. But now that the Lott is so popular and easily available, has anybody been necking it down to .416? What is that wildcat called, performance?

Or is it not worth doing, will the lott not work in a standard length action (whole reason I thought for going with the .416 taylor)? Just curious about it.

Red

24 September 2003, 06:00

Lee Martin

It would be very close to either a .416 Hoffman or .416 Remington Magnum.

Lee Martin
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24 September 2003, 07:07

Paul H

It would be a slightly shorter 416 Hoffman or Remington, 2.80" vs 2.85". Before the 458 lott became a factory round, I formed 458 lott brass by necking up 416 rem mag, then trimming to length.

For a standard length 416, there is the 416 Taylor on the 2.5" belted case, or the 416 Howell, on a 2.5" 404 case.

24 September 2003, 07:52

Dago Red

I see. Why bother necking it down when you could just buy a factory 416 remington I guess.

What is the 416 hoffman built off of?

Red

24 September 2003, 12:42

Paul H

quote:
Originally posted by Dago Red:
I see. Why bother necking it down when you could just buy a factory 416 remington I guess.

What is the 416 hoffman built off of?

Red

The 416 Hoffman is essentiall the same as the 416 rem, ie H&H belted case. The Hoffman was developed many years before the rem mag, and was designed as a necked up and blown out 375 H&H. The 416 rem mag was the 8mm rem mag necked up. A 416 Hoffman will chamber a 416 rem mag round.

24 September 2003, 12:47

Wildcat Crazy

When you neck the Lott down to .416,you have the .416 Rem.Mag.,unless you change the shoulder angle or neck length.

WC

24 September 2003, 14:14

jeffeosso

<pets 416 rem on a model 70>

it's a great idea!!

Thanks George Huffman

jeffe

25 September 2003, 08:13

Paul H

quote:
Originally posted by Wildcat Crazy:
When you neck the Lott down to .416,you have the .416 Rem.Mag.,unless you change the shoulder angle or neck length.

WC

Not true, the 458 Lott has no shoulder, it is a straight tapered case. When you neck it down, the shoulder and neck will come out based on whatever die you use to neck it down.