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450-500 Express-rimless-info needed

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03 July 2012, 01:38
butchlambert
450-500 Express-rimless-info needed
Anybody have info on it? I fireformed a 458 Lott piece of brass in it. As close as I can tell, it may be the same as a 450 Ackley Magnum.
03 July 2012, 10:06
dpcd
The 450-400 is a .40 caliber and brass is readily available; made by Hornady.
03 July 2012, 18:31
butchlambert
I guess I have something else then as mine is 458. The barrel is marked 450-400 Express.
04 July 2012, 10:48
bcp
I believe it was usual for British reformed cartridges to list the original caliber first, then the new one-opposite the US naming style.

If invented there, we would have the 06-25 and the 250-22. Smiler

Bruce
04 July 2012, 22:11
Biebs
Butch, so the rifle's chamber was larger than a 458 Lott, I take it? Sounds like the bore is 45 caliber? Maybe a 404 Jeffery blown out to 458, like a 460 Guns & Ammo? A 450 Ackley is a 375 H&H blown out to 458. I had one in a Griffin & Howe at one time. Great caliber, as you can shoot 458 Win, Lott, Watts, or Ackley ammunition in it.
04 July 2012, 22:38
butchlambert
It was the M17 that I purchased from you. I loaded a piece of Lott brass with a 45 cal. lead bullet. I did a chamber cast first. I do need to find the fireformed brass and post the measurements. It is pleasant to shoot.
05 July 2012, 02:24
Biebs
That's a 500-450, isn't it?
05 July 2012, 02:46
butchlambert
Sir,
It is marked 450-500 Express. Glad I checked it again. The brass is approx. 2.800 in length, 2.500 to the shoulder, .500 diameter at the shoulder and .510 just above the belt. Being as I fire formed basic Norma mag brass the chamber could be a little longer in length. I haven't found my chamber cast yet. I did double check the bore and it is definitely 458

Just found the chamber cast. It is 2.875 in total length.
15 July 2012, 08:21
PoppaW
So 450 is the caliber. 500 is the bullet in grains and express is just cooler than saying magnum. 458 lot improved.


WOODY
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