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25 October 2022, 03:58
yumastepside
6mm-357
Anyone done a 357 mag necked down to 6mm/243 for a Martini ?

Roger
25 October 2022, 05:02
Matt Norman
Kinda like a 256 Winchester.

I reloaded the 256 Winchester and sizing 357 brass resulted in a lot of cracked/deformed cases. Nickel cases in particular.
25 October 2022, 18:50
butchloc
one of my cadets is 256 it is a fun plinker
25 October 2022, 19:10
Hipshoot
Matt,
What I do is, I use once fired .357M BRASS

#1 Full length size in .357M carbide die

#2 ANNEAL neck and shoulder area

#3 Lube cases with Imperial Sizing Die Wax (Also sold by Hornady and Redding I believe)

#4 Full length size in .256 WM full length die by BUMPING a little at a time until fully sized A few of the cases may come out with a few wrinkles in the neck/shoulder area but they seem to last just as long as the unwrinkled ones.

This seems to work with nickel plated cases but you are right, they don't last as long.

The sizing die wax and the bumping seems to be the trick.

Hip

Now back to the 6mm/.357! Smiler
26 October 2022, 22:25
richj
I remember a G&A story about woodchuck hunting on a golf course. The writer has a short carbine Martini in a gold painted mannlicher thumbhole stock in that caliber.
26 October 2022, 23:30
yumastepside
...actually that was a 44 mag necked down to 17...close but no cigar Wink

Roger
28 October 2022, 04:12
theback40
I did one on a 357 maximum case. I ended up trading it for something, dont remember what. The guy used it for his kids first deer rifle.
30 October 2022, 23:34
yumastepside
Was that in a Martini Cadet?

Roger
31 October 2022, 21:39
richj
I had G&A and AR from 1960 to about 2004.

Had to throw them out. Wish I had a bulk scanner.
01 November 2022, 05:22
theback40
Yes Roger, that was a cadet.
I have a cadet in 357 Maximum, had to deepen the loading trough to get shells in and out. With the neck and shoulder of the 6mm, no problems.
07 November 2022, 10:34
yumastepside
What did you use to neck the 357 down to 243?

Roger
09 November 2022, 05:33
Mark Clark
Had a customer with one.
Neck up 22 Jet and fire form

M
11 November 2022, 05:57
theback40
I used a set of 300 black-out form dies, but that was for 357 max brass.
Yes, fireforming jet brass with be the simplest way.
11 November 2022, 09:57
yumastepside
Maybe so, but down here jet brass is unobtainium, I have bags of 357 brass...

Roger
11 November 2022, 23:45
338guy
I have a 256 Win. A 30 Mauser or 30 Luger die works great to neck down the 357 case and form a shoulder. From this I run them into the 256 die. Never have any failures this way.
12 November 2022, 01:32
yumastepside
Thanks for the tip, then maybe a cut down 243 Win. die to get to 6mm.

Roger
21 May 2023, 08:41
yumastepside
This one ?



Roger
21 May 2023, 17:02
richj
I can't believe you have that. I threw out my G&A. Had from 1960 to 1995.