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Rust in the grooves........................

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18 August 2008, 20:04
Steve E.
Rust in the grooves........................
I recently picked up an Encore pistol barrel cheap, it had some rust in the grooves, and was wondering if there was a way to remove the rust. There is no rust on the lands just the grooves. It starts about 3/8th of an inch into the riflings and goes about 2 inches. It is not continous coverage but is mostly confined to the area next to the lands in narrow strips. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I tried Kroil and a brass brush and it got some out but there is always that stubborn bit. Thanks for any info.

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18 August 2008, 21:38
mete
Perhaps some Naval Jelly ? Or oxalic acid ? Do it carefully.
18 August 2008, 22:51
swampshooter
are you absolutely certain it's rust. i once had rust develop in the grooves of a very good shooting springfield,years ago. so i traded for a new rifle, same caliber, well after several months it developed the same situation. it wound up being a combination of copper and ball powder fouling as in those days my cleaning methods left something to be desired.


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19 August 2008, 08:25
Steve E.
It's definetly rust.

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19 August 2008, 10:06
greatnorth
I've used kroil, soaking and light brushing to get light rust from a barrel. Greg
19 August 2008, 14:36
wildboar
You could try with a stainless steel brush or even a subcaliber brush wrapped with 0000 steel wool; apply some oil before.
20 August 2008, 03:46
Steve E.
Thanks for the suggestions guys, keep'em coming.

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20 August 2008, 05:45
swheeler
If it was mine I would clean it good with JB's, then get myself a hundred or so cast bullets, with the longest bearing surface I could and fire them thru the barrel at low/moderate speed, under 1600. Fire 5 and check for lead, if leading clean good and fire some more, after the hundred are gone be amazed at the sparkling, mirror bright bore. .02
20 August 2008, 19:08
N E 450 No2
I would use J&B bore paste.


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22 August 2008, 09:37
Code4
As long as there is no obvious obstruction of the barrel, (test by pushing a patch through it and watch for tight spots) shoot it first before trying any drastic remedies. You maybe pleasantly surprised.
24 August 2008, 20:14
Doc
Soak the bbl with Kroil for 5 hours and dry patch. Resoak it for another 5 hours and dry patch.

Resoak it over night, then use a caliber sized brush and go about 30 passes. Run 4-5 saturated patches with Kroil/Shooters Choice 1:3 ratio, then dry patch.

Then go shoot. Any pitting left by the rust will fill with copper/powder fouling. Clean sparingly afterwards, but when storing use a good bore conditioner, like Montana Extreme has put out.


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25 August 2008, 00:12
tiggertate
Ditto for shooting it. Amazing what a little friction and heat will do.


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26 August 2008, 09:52
Steve E.
I am going to try to get to the range this week and try the shooting with JB Paste and see how that goes.

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26 August 2008, 16:57
tiggertate
If you're thinking of shooting JB through the bore, be darn sure its only a film or less. A gob of could cause you to ring the barrel.

I'd scub it with JB, push a sloppy patch to move most of it out brfore firing.


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27 August 2008, 10:11
N E 450 No2
DEFINATELY do not shoot with JB in the barrel.


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07 September 2008, 21:55
swheeler
quote:
If it was mine I would clean it good with JB's, then get myself a hundred or so cast bullets, with the longest bearing surface I could and fire them thru the barrel at low/moderate speed, under 1600. Fire 5 and check for lead, if leading clean good and fire some more, after the hundred are gone be amazed at the sparkling, mirror bright bore. .02

Steve E-Nobody ever said anything about shooting JB's in it??? clean it good with JB's then shoot it!
07 September 2008, 22:53
onefunzr2
Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner removes rust without harming bluing. Using it per their instructions got the rust out of a Russian Nagant model 1895 revolver. Same scenario; lands bright and shinny, grooves filled with rust.