Ah yes, the usual butchlambert ad hominem.
YOU go check the hardness of carbon fibre & get back to me instead of posting unsubstantiated & physically impossible BS.

I didn't know that we had another genius on this forum that likes the ad homo expression. I see you have never stepped foot in a machine shop or tried to machine carbon fiber. I'll post a link for you to read. Then I will accept an apology.

http://www.practicalmachinist....carbon-fibre-229590/

If you need additional info I will supply it for you. You are like a few other idiots that think it is like a lubricant.
Butch

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This is your opinion.



Not opinion, it's a fact. A local shooter here had one snap and still suffers from tendon damage to his hand.....ever see how jagged and splintery a CF rod looks after snapping? I have posted this on several forums in the past, but some still argue that CF rods are the best thing going. Also, if one reads the customer reviews on the various vendor websites one will find that the smaller diameter CF rods are notorious for snapping.
I believe it would be extremely difficult to bend a properly sized for caliber, HARDENED STEEL quality rod like Ivy, Bore-tech, or Dewey in normal usage.

Parker-Hale coated

The one God gave me.

Tipton and Lucas guides.

quote:

Originally posted by Oddbod:
YOU go check the hardness of carbon fibre & get back to me instead of posting unsubstantiated & physically impossible BS.

With respect, anyone who has had a carbon fibre arrow shatter will tell you that it is a sobering experience.

But more properly on topic, my most used rods are stainless steel and I keep them scrupulously clean with Autosol. I use drilled out cases as bore guides. My rods are branded Parker Hale and whoever made them did a fine job. The smallest calibre I shoot regularly is .375 and I find the larger bores very easy to maintain.

Hardness is often the handmaiden of brittleness. In carbon fiber, at least as it is used in cleaning rods, and arrows, apparently, this is a truism. You can only fool me twice. I bought ---and shattered two carbon fiber rods--one inexpensive one and one that really pissed me off since it was so expensive. Now I use the coated Deweys and Sinclair guides.

I use Proshot stainless. Works without bending

I prefer Ivy &/or Bore Stix rods.

I tried pushing a jag/patch & carbon rod once-
I intentionally snapped it in half to take it out of circulation.

I'll leave the carbon rods for the weekend warriors!!

Mostly Ivys and I have a pair of Pro Shot.

When I as a little kid, I used whatever I could get...jointed brass, aluminum, or steel (iron?) rods....even a few wood ones. In the military I learned to prefer the one-piece, brass handled, steel rods they issued us for use by the whole platoon which we called "caliber .30 barracks rods".

When I became a high-power competition shooter, for a decade I used Parker-Hale plastic coated rods. But I stopped using them after a bit because the Sweets 7.62 solvent I used not only removed copper, it removed the plastic coating of the rods. And underneath, they are plain, unpolished raw steel with a rather rough finish.

Then I went to Dewey's highly polished stainless rods. If they are of the proper bore size, used properly, they don't bend or break when my hands are the ones using them. (I ALWAYS use rod guides.)

Then, in about the middle of my benchrest days, I changed to Pro-Shots. No particular reason except they were easily available and I like their easy spinning handles maybe a wee tad better than the Dewey's.


My experience with carbon fibre composite deep sea fishing rods long ago convinced me I would never use gun cleaning rods made of that or similar material. It is very stiff, and very strong...to a point. Beyond that point in my hands it is a disaster waiting to happen.

My Pro-Shots work fine for me and have for over almost two decades now. Why use a risky material to fix something what ain't broke?

Dewey one piece vinyl coated and lucas bore guides.

I have Dewey stainless and coated rods, and use bore guides too.

Frankly I'd be surprised to see anyone who has much experience working with carbon fiber using it as a cleaning rod.

Evan K,
I have been taken to the shed for saying to stay away from carbon fiber cleaning rods. I've been told how strong they are and that carbon fiber is a lubricant and can't hurt a barrel.
If they had machined as much graphite and carbon fiber as I had, they would know better.

I use Dewey, mostly out of habit. They've worked for the last 40 years, so if it ain't broke don't fix it. I always use a bore guide from Sinclair.

Tipton carbon fiber rods for the rifles, and aluminum or steel one piece deals for the pistols.

May I change my Opinion from above and some time ago?

I like now DEWEY!

But still the BRASS ones!

Dewey quality, BRASS one piece rods, .22 and .30 cals, and they have the CORRECT thread size, too!

8 -32 without any §$%&#*!!! Adaptors!

Hermann

I use Dewey, I have about 6 of them in different sizes.

When I use a rod and thats not often as I'm a fan of the boresnakes, but say twice a year per gun I only use one piece stainless steel rods..SS does not pick up grit like brass or other materials..I don't trust carbon fiber and I believe it to be abrasive and have discussed this with many benchrest shooters and gunsmiths, and have bowed to their expertise on the subject...Just my opine and its what I do.

+1 Ray

I made my own cleaning rods from stainless steel. I use manufactured tips but the rods are mine. I also made custom chamber guides so the rod won't mar the chambers. They are not made from stainless but from a plastic material that is not affected by the solvents and oils. It looks like nylon but seems denser.