Been shooting alot of 38spl in my .357 and .44 Spl in my .44 mag in local IPSC matches. Now I want to shoot some "normal" loads and have tried just about everything I can think of to get the "ring" of fouling out of the chamber inclusing putting a brush in an electric drill and giving each chamber a really good scrape (killed the brush but the fouling is still there) and Castrol "crud Cutter". Any sugestions?

Ganyana,

If you can get it try using some JB Bore cleaner compound or Flitz metal polish on a one size larger bore brush wrapped with a patch and spun in the drill. Go slowly and check progress frequently.

For the very best way to remove lead or other fouling get one of these:
Lewis Lead Remover

Paul

If your brush was bronze I'm supprised crud is still there, are you sure it's not just a burn/corrosion ring? I'd try a few full load long ones and see if they extract ok.

Best thing I ever found is the "Wipe Away" yellow cloth by Bell Labs. I thought the flash on the face of my stainless revolver was permanent until I got one. Rubbed a bit and it was gone. Patch around a fat brush should cut this way down.

Better is to load the .38 and .44 loads in the longer cases.

Avoid the stainless brushes. Only do damage.

From there is it long soaks in solvents. Ed's Red is as good as any and better than many. The carb cleaners are good too. You should be able to get back to metal but it is burned in and hardened and don't give up quick.

Never did get a yellow Wipe Away patch on a jag to come out without crud from a centerfire. Used up most of a rag trying. Good tool. Luck.

Thanks, Some things to try. Unfortunately for IPSC competion, the longer magnum length cases are not always thrown clwear of the cylender on a speed reload and hang up. On the spare cylender for the .44 which takes full moom clips they catch on the grip with magnum cases and have to be wriggeled free, so am basically stuck with .44 special (which work great) for competion.

For what's worth.
I suspect gun shows are a bit scarce in Zim.
I use 50 cal bore brushes on my 44 and 45 chambers that I pick up at gunshows real cheap.
And for 357 chambers my worn out 375 brushes do well.
For cleaning off and out odf carbon I usw WWII bore solvent, it's a brown evil looking stuff, smells even worse but cleans off the carbon and such. Also a gunshow score.

Jim

Anything that was really stubborn in a revolver was always removed when I put the Lewis Lead Remover
to it. It removes lead from the forcing cone and carbon build up from the cylinders.