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21 June 2014, 04:25
SR4759
Corrosion and friction tests of gun care products.
Take a look at the rather exhaustive tests this guy ran. Some favorites tested well some were turkeys and some were outstanding.
His test design was outstanding also so I would trust his results.

Corrosion and friction tests of gun care products

Learn which product lasted to the end of the tests.

Video at 144 Hours


21 June 2014, 07:06
steyrsteve
Great info-thanks. I was surprised at RIG-2's poor performance. I recall a test done by RIFLE MAGAZINE many years ago along the same lines as this test. RIG, not RIG-2, was the clear winner. I have been using RIG ever since for long term gun storage. I have never heard of RIG-2. Wonder what the difference is?


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22 June 2014, 00:26
Arminius
RIG is, as the name says, R Rust I Inhibiting Grease.

It´s GREASE, and it´s ONLY Claim is, that it prevents rust. Which it does.

It was the basis of a whole range of gun care products.

RIG 2 is a very thin oil, which is now available again ( first from RIG company, then Silencio, now Birchwood Casey, from what little I know ).

RIG 2 leaves a thin film on parts, don´t know how good for rust protect, but it works, but I did NOT test that extensively. The thin film shall ( Advertising claim ) also lube ... it´s fine for shotgun cleaning, IMO.

RIG 44 was a Copper or Bore cleaner, not especially a good one.

RIG 7, OTOH, was a lube, a VERY THICK lube. It didn´t claim anything else, it was clear, odorless and so thick it was >nearly< grease. But only nearly. And it was EXCELLENT for lubeing semi autos!!!!! It came in small, mighty handy take along bottles.

I have a small sample left, but I WANT RIG 7 BAAACK! It stays where you put it! ( and if a little runs out, ist colourless and odorless! )

RIG ( the original grease ) was also blended and sold as Stainless lube. Didn´t test that.

They also made a range of gun cleaning products, I was happy at the time to have had some of them ... they were not bad. Not Dewey, though.

I use RIG and RIG 2 regularly. I want RIG 7 back!!

Hermann


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08 July 2014, 00:17
Atkinson
friction wise, Transmission oil, is the long time winner according to Whites Laboratory (American Rifleman)...Corrosion wise, most folks still use WD-40 in the USA or for me in places like Alaska I like the old hard Johnsons floor wax, not the new stuff. I swear the old wax worked better than Teflon or stainless steel! clap

Rather than what you use, I suspect it boils down to how you use it. Same with stock finishes.


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08 July 2014, 02:34
mete
RIG for stainless steel and high pressure applications [shotgun hinge pins etc] was labeled as RIG+P The EP additive smell was obvious to me though not excessive.Have used it for shotgun pins.Some of the others I hadn't heard of.A large can of RIG lasts a long time !
09 July 2014, 15:53
SR4759
The tester for this experiment applied all the products exactly the same. So the results are directly comparable - they all were appplied to the same material the same way and were all exposed to the same exact environment. Some of the items were tested twice just to make sure the test was not a fluke.

ATF was the 6th item from the worst in terms of reducing friction.
ATF began rusting in the first 24 hours. Not right you say? All the products were tested together and in exactly the same way.


quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
friction wise, Transmission oil, is the long time winner according to Whites Laboratory (American Rifleman)...Corrosion wise, most folks still use WD-40 in the USA or for me in places like Alaska I like the old hard Johnsons floor wax, not the new stuff. I swear the old wax worked better than Teflon or stainless steel! clap

Rather than what you use, I suspect it boils down to how you use it. Same with stock finishes.

10 July 2014, 07:15
Nakihunter
Very useful info. Thanks for sharing.

I saw a similar test report a few years ago with salt spray on the metal. In that particular report Eezox came on top.


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10 July 2014, 19:54
richj
Naki

I saw that salt test where Eezox was the winner too. Been using Eezox, Military LSA and Ballistol for a while. Ballistol actually smells like anis (black liquorice). Light machine oil (sewing machine oil) and 3in1 are pretty good lubes too.
11 July 2014, 01:01
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11 July 2014, 05:16
LionHunter
I have read the entire research project. The problem I have is that the term Hornady One Shot is used on a number of different Hornady products. The test shows two different Hornady One Shot products in the accompanying photos; one in the group pic and a different one in the solo pic. So which was tested?


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11 July 2014, 09:51
SR4759
The photos look the same to me.
The SKU appears to be 99936
Based on the salt fog claims I think this has to be the product tested. The other One Shot products do not make the 400 hour salt fog claim.

Hornady One Shot





Formulated for extended shooting in harsh weather conditions
9-layer formula withstands 400 hours of salt spray exposure

This Gun and Tool Cleaner-Conditioner & Dry Lubricant reduces friction causing grime build up. The thin dry film lube is impervious to heat, cold and supports a self-cleaning action resulting in less residue build up and easier removal.

Exceeds the US PRF 63460 and NATO Military minimum load carrying capacity by six times
Surpasses 400 hours Salt and Spray Corrosion Protection (per ASTM B117)
Prevents tarnish, reduces ejection drag, and jamming
High load carrying capacity (metal-to-metal pressure-3000#+)
Heat/Cold resistant to 400°F (200°C) and -40°F
11 July 2014, 21:21
wrongtarget
I'll stick with Eezox, been using it too long, I KNOW it works.

http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html
13 July 2014, 02:40
richj
Bought a can of One Shot 99901 cleaner and dry lube. man is it a good lube. But they both have "Dyna-Glide" :-)
13 July 2014, 03:45
SR4759
I have to find a can of the 1 Shot also.

The Birchwood Casey Barricade has been very good but I would prefer the best I can get for rifle storage.
13 July 2014, 05:33
Nakihunter
I checked for the WD 40 Specialist and found that there are at least 4 variations.

The particular one - Long term Corrosion Inhibitor is not available here in NZ!


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13 July 2014, 21:29
Jiri
SR4759:

What does it mean "TAP"? Some One Shot is "TAP" and some not.

wrongtarget:

I use EEZOX too for many years with great results. Hard to get in my country, so I order 5-6 18oz sprays each few years. Still two full spare bottles there ;-)
But it doesn't work for copper fouling of course, KG SF-112 works by far the best for that (much better than M-Pro 7).

Jiri
14 July 2014, 00:22
richj
A "Tactical application police" (TAP) sticker/Badge

http://www.hornady.com/store/TAP-Sticker


14 July 2014, 02:04
SR4759
Someone at Hornady is pulling our leg.
14 July 2014, 02:28
SR4759
I know that in my own environment both Hoppe's #9 and Birchwood Casey Barricade work well for rust prevention. Barricade not only protects my rifles but a large number of bare steel reloading dies. If there is a better product sold for a reasonable price I am happy to use it.


quote:
Originally posted by wrongtarget:
I'll stick with Eezox, been using it too long, I KNOW it works.

http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

14 July 2014, 03:41
richj
It's interesting. One Shot goes on kinda like Dillon case lube.
11 August 2014, 01:09
RVL III
I've used Frog Lube for a few years now, on my duty guns and even put it on the blades of by gas powered hedge trimmers. Hedge trimmers run cooler and I've only applied it the one time about 2-3 years ago! Works best when you warm the metal.


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21 February 2015, 23:25
Atkinson
What is most amazing that the number of tests all the magazines and internet junkies have run all ended up with different results..

The real answer to all this BS is the owner, who uses but never abuses his rifle. The guy that sit in the tent at the end of the day and wipes his gun off..


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28 February 2015, 19:55
HiDrag
Spot on! Everyone believes they live in some sort of especially hostile environment for their firearms. I've lived in 6 different states in the US over the course of my 40+ years of firearm ownership.

These super lube products are solving a problem that doesn't exist for anyone with half a brain for gun care. I've never needed anything to prevent corrosion besides common sense.



quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
What is most amazing that the number of tests all the magazines and internet junkies have run all ended up with different results..

The real answer to all this BS is the owner, who uses but never abuses his rifle. The guy that sit in the tent at the end of the day and wipes his gun off..



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12 March 2015, 22:17
larrys
If I ever wipe my gun off with a hotdog, I will know what to use. Until then, I will stick with Eezox.


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16 May 2015, 22:22
Atkinson
If that works for you then your spot on. I have done the same thing with a dry rag in some pretty rough weather in a tent at 8000 ft. and two feet of snow where I live..Sometimes I forget some needed items! but done properly the dry rag will work by golly...

Properly outfitted a cold weather hunter should have a little steel wool and some kind of oil, my dad used old drained 30 wt. from his truck! but he was more hunter than gun crank, but all his guns were shiny without rust or pits just worn blue.


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28 May 2015, 09:35
Saeed
Great test.

I think different people get different results because of the composition of the steel they use.


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31 May 2015, 10:21
Duckear
Agree that the alloy and finish play a huge role in what 'works' best for an individual.


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