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California Gun Regulations.
21 December 2016, 21:38
Bill73California Gun Regulations.
I am in Michigan,had a brief aquaintance with this guy,he was from California,he had no driver's license as a result of two previous DUI's & I do not know what other legal issues he might have had,he bought a hand gun here legally from a local range,drove back to Ca with the gun in his truck,is this legal under Ca law?
DRSS
21 December 2016, 23:17
p dog shooterMaybe maybe not not enough information.
21 December 2016, 23:36
butchloche did not buy it legally, unless he had a ffl
22 December 2016, 03:09
SamWho's driving his truck? Not your problem unless it was your handgun. If it was, how did he meet r sidency requirements for Michigan?
A bad day at the range is better than a good day at work.
22 December 2016, 03:13
TWLI believe butchloc is correct. Unless he is an ffl holder, any handgun he purchases in MI would have to be transferred through an ffl in MI AND California. But I could be wrong.
114-R10David
22 December 2016, 19:56
Bill73No,not my gun,he resided here for about 10 months,so must have proved residency,then he drove back to Ca still with no license & gun with him,the range sold him the gun legally,I am just curious what happens when he is back in Ca,where he is now,does he have to register the gun? does he go through any back ground checks or anything?
DRSS
23 December 2016, 03:28
p dog shooterSounds like he has legal procession and unless it was a model banned in CA most likely legal there too.
Unless he is in one of the very antigun urban areas he is most likely just fine
23 December 2016, 03:56
Dulltool17Chances are, that simply farting while in possession of a substance containing nitrates is illegal in Kalifornistan. Their gun laws are rapidly approximating those of Britain.
I'll wager that he's violating some Kali law.
Doug Wilhelmi
NRA Life Member
24 December 2016, 11:10
mlfgunsIf he acquired resident status in MI. He should have been able to purchase a firearm in MI. if Mi. performed their due background check and was cleared.
A DUI does not prevent you from owning firearms. Nor is a driver's license needed. If he had legal identification, passport etc.. to prove his citizenship and residency then he met the requirements. If he elects to move back to CA. he does not have to register or claim any firearm.
Granted new laws aiming to enforce registration and collect fees, are up in the air. I don't think many will register their guns believing the laws are unconstitutional and waiting for them to be challenged in the US Supreme Court with the upcoming administration.
25 December 2016, 02:24
TomPquote:
Originally posted by mlfguns:
If he acquired resident status in MI. He should have been able to purchase a firearm in MI. if Mi. performed their due background check and was cleared.
A DUI does not prevent you from owning firearms. Nor is a driver's license needed. If he had legal identification, passport etc.. to prove his citizenship and residency then he met the requirements. If he elects to move back to CA. he does not have to register or claim any firearm.
Granted new laws aiming to enforce registration and collect fees, are up in the air. I don't think many will register their guns believing the laws are unconstitutional and waiting for them to be challenged in the US Supreme Court with the upcoming administration.
When moving to California, the new resident has 60 days to register handguns with DOJ. If he was a legal resident in Michigan and moved to California that would be his requirement. If he was a legal resident in California at the time of the sale, it should have gone through an FFL, with DROS. There is something odd about this transaction, but it may be legal if he does not fall in a class of prohibited persons and the handgun is not in the class of "Any Other Weapon". I'm told that Magnum Research's rotary breech pistol is an AOW.
TomP
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27 December 2016, 10:10
Big Wonderful WyomingCalifornian gun laws are draconian but not the level that most of you believe.
Hawaiian gun laws are draconian.
I get told on a regular basis that something is illegal in California, and most of the times it is not.
Here are some illegal things in California:
Owning a ferret
Owning a silencer
Having high capacity magazines that you did not buy legally before the law sunset
Owning a class 3 firearm
If you owned it before you moved to California, and it was legal in your state it is probably legal in California.
If you had to have a special license, then probably not. Most semi-automatic firearms can be converted to meet California code.
30 December 2016, 08:34
MeMeProp 63 passed in November.
It now makes high-capacity magazine (any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds) illegal to possess — even if you bought it prior to the current ban and ownership was previously considered grandfathered.
Lots of people are going to be felons in this state.
30 December 2016, 09:32
MeMeI stand corrected.. This just came out at 8:30 Ca time from the NRA.
On Thursday, December 29, the California Department of Justice (DOJ) backed down from its proposed “emergency” regulations on large-capacity magazines, asking the Office of Administrative Law (OAL) to withdraw them from consideration.
30 December 2016, 09:42
Ray Belecting a Brown three times would be proof enough for most that there are a significant number of people in California that a REAL slow learners.
21 January 2017, 03:43
JeffreyPhDquote:
Originally posted by mlfguns:
If he acquired resident status in MI. He should have been able to purchase a firearm in MI. if Mi. performed their due background check and was cleared.
A DUI does not prevent you from owning firearms. Nor is a driver's license needed. If he had legal identification, passport etc.. to prove his citizenship and residency then he met the requirements. If he elects to move back to CA. he does not have to register or claim any firearm.
Granted new laws aiming to enforce registration and collect fees, are up in the air. I don't think many will register their guns believing the laws are unconstitutional and waiting for them to be challenged in the US Supreme Court with the upcoming administration.
The firearms laws here (CA) have been difficult to follow lately with the passage of two competing gun control measures last year. Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't the handgun this fellow bought have to be on the CA registry (list of approved handguns) to be legally brought into the state?
The website Calguns is an excellent resource for current CA gun laws and new developments.