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Sendero rifles
09 June 2006, 13:46
GreybeardBushmanSendero rifles
Curious also to thoughts on this Remington.
Looking at a long range rifle for fun at present, just shooting targets.
But are they really good? Or other 26" barrel rifles by other makers that would be better value?
Do a Google search and there are as many good
reports as less than good.
My only involvement with one was a stainless 25/06 a couple of years ago. It was bought new, sent straight to the 'smith to be fiddled with, and was subsequently a tremendous performer.
Basically though, they are Rem VS or VSSFs in a larger cartridge. My VS and VSSF have been excellent, so I would expect similar from a Sendero.
09 June 2006, 23:38
RemLoverI have had nothing but outstanding success with senderos in 300 RUM and 7mm RUM both are extremely accurate. Also have a .223 Rem in vssf and a .243 Win in vs and they both are extremely accurate.
GBB,
I'm chasing quotes on a Savage FV in .243Win. Blued varmint contour, 26" barrel ... and I bet you a little cheaper than the Rem700 Sendero. And with a US$30 barrel wrench and some headspace guages ... a pretty easy switch-barrel project. Added bonus ... our registry views "switch-barrels" as 1 receiver one firearm. Double bonus ... easier to sneak new barrels into the house rather than complete rifles

Cheers...
Con
10 June 2006, 03:16
GreybeardBushman
Extremely good points, Con. You have convinced me completely.
Now for the hard part. Young boys who think (know!) their Dad's are pushovers....
I have a VSSF in 223, its basically the same as the sendero stainless flued.
I like the stock on this rifle very much and it shoots well enough.
I have had several feeding issies that have put me off this rifle abit and much prefer my Tikka M595 continental and will be trading this rifle on a Tikka T3.
Having said that, If they would only chamber there new sendero 2 in 7mm WSM or SAUM, I would buy one in a flash.
GBB,
For comparisons sake, a Savage 12FV ( but the stainless fluted model) I was quoted $995 ... just need to find out whether that's a local price or a true price. The regular 12FV (blued) is $45 cheaper.
Cheers...
Con
10 June 2006, 15:23
GreybeardBushmanSavage have an interesting web site if you aren't totally sure what you are looking for.
But advice taken AND ACTED ON, mate.
10 June 2006, 17:44
driverHello,
Would suggest you stick with the Remington and if you are going to shoot long range targets the VSSF version in caliber 308 is a real sleeper in terms of accuracy out of the box. I have custom built target grade rifles w/ various barrel makers, but will say that the Remington model as mentioned will hold it's own with the factory barrel. Someone mentioned feeding problems and that is most unusual for the Remington. The 700 rifle is the basis for many target rifles as well as military shooters all over the world. I am sure there are others out there that work fine, but Remington dominates probably 10 to 1 around the world. As always, if you desire to modify the rifle in the future, endless source of items to work with and the trigger if adjusted properly is hard to beat. Just a suggestion.
11 June 2006, 10:55
BruceNZI've been reading lots of complaints about Remington's current quality control (or lack thereof) - another option would be to find a used 700 in good condition, find a good gunsmith to stick a new barrel on it, then stick it in a (say) HS Precision stock.
Bruce
11 June 2006, 16:03
Ian in OzHello Con (& others)
The price you have been quoted for a 12FVSS is good - I bought one in 22-250 last year (for more than $995) and have had great success with it. Genuine <0.5MOA at 200m for 5-shot groups with 55gn VMax or 50gn BT. The plastic stock is a bit flexible in the fore-end but I knew that before I bought it and quickly purchased a fibreglass stock from SSS. I've got a VX-III on top in Talley mounts. The Accu-trigger is great!
I haven't tried them in long actions yet but probably will someday.
Ian
Ian in Oz,
How did you find SSS to deal with? They've been pretty positive about shipping stuff to me over here, but comments from someone that's experienced their service would be appreciated. I'm looking at getting a replacement bolt-handle, a bolt head or two and action wrench to facilitate barrel swaps.
Cheers...
Con
BruceNZ,
You make a good point ... but given a Sendero will set you back anywhere from $1200 (good luck!) through to $1700 ... there is no way you can match that price on a build. Action will be $500 (if your lucky) and your facing another $1000 to supply and fit a match-grade Lilja, Hart or Shilen with 0.5MOA guarantee. You could go a stainless MAB fitted for $600 though. Then you still need to stock it. Pretty much a break even proposition at the moment.
Cheers...
Con
12 June 2006, 06:26
Ian in OzCon
No problems at all dealing with SSS, they shipped the stock quickly (it was black with grey webbing so I had to wait for it to be painted) and also responded quickly to followup emails. I'm very impressed with the stock, it hasn't made the rifle shoot any better but the rifle is definitely better to shoot with. I would not hesitate to deal with SSS again. Don't forget that bolt heads & bolt handles may fall foul of the new AustPost restrictions.
Ian
12 June 2006, 09:27
BruceNZquote:
You make a good point ... but given a Sendero will set you back anywhere from $1200 (good luck!) through to $1700 ... there is no way you can match that price on a build.
Fair enough - but I find a rifle build to be more fun than buying new.
Bruce
13 June 2006, 07:15
juanpozziIhave experience with savage tacticals ,very accurate rifles and ,with Senderos 308 and 223 ,i readed that you hunt mostly from your truck with spotligths so you need a ligth shrt rifle to shoot fast ,but a cz 223 the cz fox is just what you need my friend.Juan
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