What an abomination! Nuclear waste in the feeder or extra special calcium and vitamins?
Sent to me from someone on FB today.

There were a couple like that at the Dortmund Jagd und Hund show on Saturday from New Zealand, Canada and Argentina.

One of the outfitters told me they had broken 800 points SCI with one of their red deer, and 600 SCI with one of their elk.

It just amazes me as to how "off the charts" the red stag genetics and natural nutrition are in New Zealand.

For sure he did the gene pool a big favor by shooting that mess.
Cull head if there ever was one.
George

G'Day Fella's,

Gryphon, it looks to me they were feeding this poor beast, Ugly Stick's!
What ever happened to a traditional and classic Red Deer head?
I have heard these heads referred to as "Monstrous", in a supposed complementary way.
Personally, I find the to be ugly monsters!

Double Doh!!
Homer

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Originally posted by 376 steyr:
It just amazes me as to how "off the charts" the red stag genetics and natural nutrition are in New Zealand.

This is not natural. These beasts are grown up on farms with added hormones and then sold to game farms.
This one doesn't look particularly big as far as these unnatural farm stags go. Just ugly and heavy. European hunters like heavy.

Deer are not fed any hormones to grow these antlers.

selective breeding Europeans have been doing it for centuries to get mass which most scoring systems calculate for sci etc

That's a freak. Not my cup of tea.

Dave

Major league ugly. I simply wouldn't shoot such an abomination.

The Rosie O'Donnel of red stags.
What some people will do to get in the "book."
Cal

Come on you guys think outside the square, nothing to do with a trophy or trophy book, probably bred and shot for knife handles

Do you know where this was shot?

I'd guess from the architecture France or Western Germany- Hartz Mountains?

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
What an abomination! Nuclear waste in the feeder or extra special calcium and vitamins?
Sent to me from someone on FB today.

Probably in the Pen it was born in.

The "hunter" appears to be wearing dress shoes. I wonder if it was shot from one of the windows in the chateau.

Genetic is the engine, food is only the gasoline...

I wouldn't care if that big boy was in my closet, Id shoot him! and I suspect anyone that was a real human off drugs and prone to human fraility would also give their right nut to shoot stag like that, the rest just lie.

Not in the pen the deer came out of...those stags don`t exist in the wild anyway...and that`s where the average ordinary old wild red stag taken in the wild eats it for trophy value. NO contest!

You'd suspect wrong.Like Gryph I see people with heads like that as failures if they claim to be hunters. Its just another farmed genetically selected animal that was always going to die for a chequebook. Give me a wild born Royal everyday.

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
What an abomination! Nuclear waste in the feeder or extra special calcium and vitamins?
Sent to me from someone on FB today.

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Originally posted by nopride2:
That's a freak. Not my cup of tea.

Dave

it's looks like a horny freak to me.....................

must be a democrat...........................................................................

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Originally posted by Kuwinda:
Do you know where this was shot?

I'd guess from the architecture France or Western Germany- Hartz Mountains?

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
What an abomination! Nuclear waste in the feeder or extra special calcium and vitamins?
Sent to me from someone on FB today.

France.

Years of highly specialized diet, and a long, no stress life. Genetics come a distant third. Though in extreme cases like this, the genes would play a bigger role I guess. I wonder how they get the non-typical antlers? The poor beast was too valuable to beat on, but perhaps a small pen will induce the necessary injuries.

I have never seen antlers as huge as the pictured stag but have seen plenty of farm stags carrying impressive headgear which is quite a sight to see. Some large stations ( farms ) here in NZ farm Red Deer and raise big trophy stags destined for tourist hunters. Often a portion of these same farms is rough backcountry holding populations of wild and free Red Deer, Fallow Deer, Chamois or Tahr and I have received permission sometimes to hunt these wild animals but you cannot expect stags to approach anywhere near the farm stags in antler size. Mostly the wild stags keep to their ground but during the roar ( rut ) when hinds ( does ) are in heat wild stags, comparitive runts in size, often come to the fence looking for some love action, and occasionally find their way through or under the fence getting among the farmed herd and inevitably confront the bigger farmed stag in contest for the hinds. Witnessing these battles two or three times over the years the interesting thing was seeing the smaller, runtier but wild stags give the big farm raised boys a good old hiding and keep them cowering at distance. In the wild environment smaller, less mature stags generally won't come to physical blows with bigger antlered and more mature stags but the wild stags it seems sense the inherent weakness of their farm raised, big antlered cousins and will dominate them physically.

Genetics and high protein feed.