Australia/New Zealand outfitter issue

22 July 2014, 07:29

I'm writing on this forum because I need help. I am an SCI member and myself and another member and his teenage son hunted with David Musgrave of South Pacific Hunters over 2 years ago. We both paid him in full to have our trophies shipped back to the USA. Mr. Musgrave has stopped answering our calls and emails. I contacted the SCI corporate office in the USA as well as emailing the New Zealand SCI affiliate with no avail. If anyone has any advice on how to proceed I would appreciate it -Australia was a once in a lifetime trip for me and receiving my water buffalo is important.

22 July 2014, 07:56

larryshores

You might get info on the huntfish forum in NZ. I had a problem about 5 years ago . I got a lot of help there.

22 July 2014, 09:16

larryshores

Actually I think it is fishnhunt.co.nz

22 July 2014, 11:18

muzza

Yep - try here

http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaBB.cgi

Bound to be someone who can offer assistance

22 July 2014, 15:21

Nakihunter

I am confused a bit here. You shot a water buffalo - that would be in Australia. But you contacted NZ SCI affiliate! Why??

NZ & Australia are further apart than USA & Canada!

We Kiwis are nicer people & we play better rugby!

22 July 2014, 15:27

Nakihunter

On a more serious note - you might try PMs to some of the Aussie & Kiwi members who are outfitters. They are a small community down under and you just might get some help from the "Inner circle". I doubt if anyone would go public when there is a potential controversy / dispute.

I hope you get your trophies.

You may also have legal options as the NZ fair trading act has teeth and the govt agencies do take it seriously. I know of at least one hunting guide who got his but kicked big time a few years ago.

22 July 2014, 16:35

johnfox

I suggest you join and make a post in this forum. http://www.australianhunting.n...dex.php?action=forum

23 July 2014, 05:46

petermayall

I heard the other day that he is currently conducting hunts in Southern Australia, but I don't have his details.
Who did he use as an outfitter on the Buffalo hunt ? I don't think that he would have been licenced in the NT, so he would have had to be sub-contracting to someone. Try chasing them up

24 July 2014, 16:31

TJVCT

Thank you to everyone for your help. The reason I contacted NZ SCI is he lives and also hunts in NZ. I will try your suggestions!
...Tom

25 July 2014, 02:32

Carlsen Highway

He lives in Queenstown, which is about four hours from me.

28 July 2014, 07:30

highlander

david@enviro-first.net.nz
021 951 148
and or issouthpacifichunters@gmail.com
the 021 will need the 0 dropped and put 0064 if calling from the US.

Good luck, I'm afraid you'll need it, add yourself to the list. You'll find a similar tread about a year ago.

Gerald Telford, president NZ Professional Hunting Guides Assoc, of which Dave Musgrave is certainly NOT a member!

Please all of you do your due diligence before booking a hunt to NZ. Sadly we have our rogue guides.
Visit the NZPHGA website at the very least.
Gurrr.

28 July 2014, 16:33

secondtry

NZ is not a big place. He can't hide.

If you have Kiwi or Australian mates, someone may be prepared to have a chat to him. (And no, I am NOT suggesting some sort of vigilante action)

Face to face, or perhaps the phone, is a lot harder to hide from than emails.

31 July 2014, 05:16

Brian Clark

Pretty sure he's not in business anymore.

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31 July 2014, 10:37

georgeld

Treating clients that way it's not surprising.
Good luck on getting your trophies.
George

31 July 2014, 17:13

boarkiller

Something like that scares lot of potential clients away so I would think Aus/NZ outfitters would do something about it

" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”

01 August 2014, 06:46

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by boarkiller:
Something like that scares lot of potential clients away so I would think Aus/NZ outfitters would do something about it

Like what exactly mate??

02 August 2014, 04:38

Dogleg

quote:
Like what exactly mate??

Torch and pitchfork party? Tar and feathers?

02 August 2014, 09:39

muzza

quote:
Torch and pitchfork party? Tar and feathers?

wow - visions of sheet-clad horsemen and burning crosses in the darkness...

Every country has a handfull of dishonest operators. We read about them all the time in the African forum , and the US forum. Hell , Aussie still has good old Lance Abbey and we have had the late Mr Nunnick in recent times . Whenever there is a dollar to be made there will be vultures.

Do your homework before you book , ask for the names of other clients the company have and check up on the reliability and performance of the company. Caveat Emptor - let the buyer beware.

04 August 2014, 02:49

Dogleg

Just for clarity; You know that was a joke right?

06 August 2014, 03:24

Brian Clark

quote:
Originally posted by TJVCT:
I'm writing on this forum because I need help. I am an SCI member and myself and another member and his teenage son hunted with David Musgrave of South Pacific Hunters over 2 years ago. We both paid him in full to have our trophies shipped back to the USA. Mr. Musgrave has stopped answering our calls and emails. I contacted the SCI corporate office in the USA as well as emailing the New Zealand SCI affiliate with no avail. If anyone has any advice on how to proceed I would appreciate it -Australia was a once in a lifetime trip for me and receiving my water buffalo is important.

Hey PM me your personnel info, in case I happens to speak to him again, I can see if I can get this resolved for you. I had plans some years back to working with Dave as a booking agent but as you know he fell off the planet.

06 August 2014, 05:43

skb

Too bad too....I had a great hunt with him and was planning another when he went MIA

06 August 2014, 07:40

TJVCT

Unexpectedly I received an email from Dave Musgrave last week stating he was in Darwin and needed my shipping info again as he was planning to ship out my horns and cape. I hope he comes thru this time after 2 years. Maybe posting on this forum helped -- Thanks to all!

.....Tom

06 August 2014, 10:03

Brian Clark

Great to hear Tom, if you still need anything let me know if I can help!!!!