My local shop took in a Remington 141 that's somewhat unusual. This one has engraving on the receiver and some unusual checkering on the forend. I've see some D and F grade guns that were engraved, but much more elaborately than this one. Other than those grades, I've never seen one that didn't have just a plain receiver. Any thoughts?

Interesting old gun …
Rimless 30/30 Winchester

An apprentices project gun? Lots of flat surface area, would make it a good one.

my guess it is a personal project and not a factory engraved gun. I would also assume the extra scope mount holes were done sometime later than the engraving.

And a mfg date of 1940-41?

I suspect a project gun by someone outside the factory.

Graded engraved Remington model 14 /141 rifles had checkered forends. They did not use the grooved forend wood from the Field grades

Also, the guns ser# and the Remington name and the Model number designation would have been hand engraved on the bottom of the frame in that forward position where the roll marked/stamped serial number is on the OP's rifle.
That stamped ser# was standard for the Field (and I believe the B Grade) as well as the roll marked Remington name and Model designation being marked on the left side of the frame.

The latter being missing from the OP rifle is a simple flat polishing off of those markings with a belt grinder or a more tedious job by draw filing and polishing.
Either way, the final look is what the factory used on the Graded rifles to allow more room for engraving. They likely just pulled frames/rifles from the line before the ser# and LS markings were roll marked/stamped.

Model 8 rifles follow the same path.

The pattern does hint at a factory style of engraving, though it's not a strict copy of any of their patterns that I can recall.
The animal figures in the way they are cut, shaded and posed remind me of the ones done by the Winchester & Marlin engravers of the early 20thC period.
The scroll pattern and style reminds me of the Win/Marlin type as well.

They would do about anything the customer wanted of course, but I still believe it is someone's personal project,,and not a bad one at that.

What do they want for it.

No price yet....he's trying to figure out what it is.

First center fire rifle I ever fired was a 141, 35. And I have 3 of them now. I was warned not to shoot it too much because ammo cost 15 cents a round! For you young guys, that was like $2 now.
Would not take a 30 though.

I can't imagine the frustration that went with that checkering pattern

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Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
I can't imagine the frustration that went with that checkering pattern

Don't you think that the checkering was cut prior to the annular grooves?

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Originally posted by Bear Cat:
Rimless 30/30 Winchester

It is true that the ballistics are essentially identical, but the case dimensions are somewhat different from the .30-30. They differ in much more than just the rims.

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Don't you think that the checkering was cut prior to the annular grooves?

That's what I was thinking, otherwise it would be a nightmare!

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Cool rifle... I'd add it to my collection if the price was right. Just my $.02.