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Re: Hunting Chamoise , question from a "newby"....??
11 August 2004, 10:24
<JOHAN>Re: Hunting Chamoise , question from a "newby"....??
Arts
I hope you get a nice hunt in Switzerland

I saw ibex in Israel, fantastic animals. I'm not sure if there is any Ibex hunting aviable in Israel

Cheers
/ JOHAN
11 August 2004, 09:51
ArtsIndeed, Alpine Ibex specie. Mainly in Switzerland and Austria. I wonder if it is a name difference only?
Ibex also in Sudan, Ethiopia, Mongolia, China, Kyrgyzstan, Khazahkstan, Pakistan, Iran, and more yet.
11 August 2004, 11:00
ArtsJohan--
No, unfortunately the Ibex of Isreal (I don't recall the specie name) are no longer available for hunting. Too bad. I'm really looking forward to hunting in Switzerland.
12 August 2004, 00:13
Steve MalinverniHi Arts
about this argument, no too much kown, and wanting to be absolutely precise, more or less all the Alpine Ibex, more over in Switzerland, are descending from the Italian population of Gran Paradiso Italian National Park, that was previously a Royal Hunting Resort, wanted by Vittorio Emanuele II King of Italy in 19th century.
In Italy, except the Friuli Region, it is super protected, and there are jail and heavy economic sanctions for poachers.
Recently, on last July, many Ibex of Trentino Region dead for sarcoptic scabies disease. Too many in a too little area .......

Differences between Alpine and Asian Ibex are the dimensions, bigger and with a bigger trophy in Asia.
Good hunt.
11 August 2004, 08:57
ArtsThis has all been very interesting and helpful to me. I go to Swizerland to hunt Ibex and Chamois on 3 September. Thank you!
11 August 2004, 09:15
konst#1Hey Arts,
no problem

.. hope you�ll post some nice pics and a nice story when you are back from your trip.
Although i�m a little bit astonished that in Switzerland they should have IBEX !
Ibex are found -as far as i know- in turkey and spain....in Switzerland they do have "Alpen Steinb�cke".
Weidmannsheil
Konstantin
12 August 2004, 06:55
ArtsThanks, Steve. Good info. I know that the Alpine specie in Switzerland will be smaller than my Asian Ibex, but it is another specie. I want the specie and the hunting experience in Switzerland.
12 August 2004, 09:58
aHunterThe Ibex ( Steinb�cke ) live ABOVE the Gams!
I hope you are in very good condition ...
The going price in Austria ( Styria ) I was told, is around � 11.000,- )8-0 !!!
Yes, there are some shot legally every year, thanks to importation and tender loving care by professional hunters, but you know how it is: the people, who have the money, who are important, get them for free!
Regrettably, I am not important enough and I hardly won�t put down � 11.000.- for one piece of game, if there are so many, I haven�t got! So much game and so little time and money ;-)
Hermann
12 August 2004, 22:41
<JOHAN>Arts
Gams/Gems
(Rupicapra rupicapra) is what I belive some would call Chamois.

Cheers
/ JOHAN
12 August 2004, 11:53
ArtsWhat are Gams? I'm guessing maybe chamois? I know about being in "Ibex shape". I've hunted several, the hardest being in Kyrgyzstan--mostly at 11,000 to 14,5000 feet elevation. I will simply say I'm not paying near that much, but won't elaborate on the cost, other than to say it isn't cheap! But it is special.