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My latest roebuck
01 August 2012, 13:49
Andre MertensMy latest roebuck
2 evenings ago, I shot this six-pointer with a .30-06 hanload (Sierra 180 RN Pro Hunter). The shot was taken at 170 m and it took off all the upper half of the heart. Death was instantaneous. The deer's legs just folded under him and he dropped on the belly.
André
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5 shots are a group.
01 August 2012, 23:04
jonherNice buck, well done!

I'm counting down the days to the start of our roe buck hunt on the 10th August

02 August 2012, 13:38
BoghossianNice buck! What do you estimate its age to be?
Also - how do you find the meat damage with an 06 on roe?
02 August 2012, 13:50
londonhunterAndre
That's wonderful
Thank you for sharing
02 August 2012, 13:50
jonher@Boghossian,
I'm no expert with the 30-06, only been using mine for a few months but so far I've shot 9 muntjac and 2 roe buck with it.
I have been using home rolled 200 grain Lapua Mega (SP) doing 800m/s and the meat damage has been very little. I was worried it would blow the muntjac to pieces but it just rolled them over with a nice 50p piece sized exit!
02 August 2012, 23:37
SIKA98Kquote:
Originally posted by Boghossian:
Nice buck! What do you estimate its age to be?
Also - how do you find the meat damage with an 06 on roe?
Myself and a Danish hunting friend went to Latvia some years ago. The quarry was boar and roe buck. We met up in Kastrup airport for the flight on to Riga. Somewhere over a beer I asked him what he was loaded with for his 30-06.
The local gunshop had set him up with some 220 grain ammo.
I kinda thought it might chew the roe bucks up a tad but as Jonher says it just punched a nice hole out the far sidewhen it came to doing the biz.
Big slow bullets do suprisingly little meat damage I have come to learn.
03 August 2012, 16:50
AndersNice buck Andre and great shot too!

03 August 2012, 19:20
Andre MertensI started using the .30-06 on Roedeer 5 years ago (actually, as soon as it was freed from being a prohibited military caliber in this country) and have been more than satisfied since. My experience is that, beneath 250 m, it kills just as fast as a .300 Mag but without the meat damage of the latter. So far, my .30-06 has killed 14 deer with bullet weights from 165 to 180 grains. While the 165's shoot definitely flatter, the 180 grainers tear up less venison with the 180 Sierra RN being the most gentle in this perspective.
André
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
07 August 2012, 15:15
gloginGood shot. My .30-06 makes a bit more mess usually...
09 August 2012, 02:09
talentrecWhat are the most common calibers for hunting roe deer? Given their body size, it would seem to me that a 22-250 or .243 would be just about ideal?
09 August 2012, 14:24
Andre MertensIn Belgium, the minimum legal caliber for general big game is a bullet diameter of 6,5 mm (.250) developing an E100 of 2200 J (for roedeer there is a tolerance for .22 bullet at E980 J). However, few are interested in a caliber limited to one single species of game and most usually use a legal big game caliber. There's an added bonus too : you may also shoot wild boar, which is illegal with a .243. Here's a pic taken at the end of an evening stalk, where I failed to get a deer with my .30-06 but hit the bonus instead

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André
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
09 August 2012, 15:00
gloginquote:
Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
In Belgium, the minimum legal caliber for general big game is a bullet diameter of 6,5 mm (.250) developing an E100 of 2200 J (for roedeer there is a tolerance for .22 bullet at E980 J). However, few are interested in a caliber limited to one single species of game and most usually use a legal big game caliber. There's an added bonus too : you may also shoot wild boar, which is illegal with a .243. Here's a pic taken at the end of an evening stalk, where I failed to get a deer with my .30-06 but hit the bonus instead

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They like rape... I got one similar size
Wild boar in rape09 August 2012, 15:34
scubaproa big Waidmannsheil Andre!
10 August 2012, 16:11
gloginquote:
Originally posted by talentrec:
What are the most common calibers for hunting roe deer? Given their body size, it would seem to me that a 22-250 or .243 would be just about ideal?
.223 for me
10 August 2012, 16:52
scubaproquote:
Originally posted by talentrec:
What are the most common calibers for hunting roe deer? Given their body size, it would seem to me that a 22-250 or .243 would be just about ideal?
I don´t make a difference - I am using anything from .270 Win up to .375H&H - and the crazy thing is that the .375H&H usualy makes not a big meat damage - just a big hole...

of course this is all overkill for such a small game like roe deer - but who cares... I would take a .223 either, but what when then a big pig comes instead - not legal to use anything below 6,5x... for them - that is the reason I always have a big caliber with me... With all of them you must hit - that is the only essential question...

Waidmannsheil Andre, good buck.
I have shot a lot of bucks with 30-06, and the best bullet I have found without causing excessive meat damage has proven to be the 180gr Swift A Frame. Yes, expensive bullets, but I don't shoot hundreds of them a year either. When hunting areas with chance for boar, always good to have what one might consider overkill for the Reh, but it comes in handy for the bigger boar, especially at night, in the woods, with plenty of thickets and briars for them to get into and then wait for you to come stumbling along

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21 August 2012, 01:34
Trapper DaveI went out for a Roebuck tonight.
Nothing showed, only Roe Does, two of them yearlings.
I shot two rabbits with the LR that ventured out into the sunshine and sent Quiddy out for them.
Then out wandered a Muntjac doe at 220yds.
Bang went the 308, out went Quiddy and retrieved that too.
Not what I went out for but I'm happy to take what offered itself!
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill